Author Topic: Coyotes fire Maloney  (Read 2129 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Online Frank E

  • All Star
  • *****
  • Posts: 5663
    • View Profile
Coyotes fire Maloney
« on: April 11, 2016, 12:38:55 PM »
http://www.tsn.ca/coyotes-fire-general-manager-maloney-1.469445

As an outsider, this is pretty surprising.

I have no idea how he gets along with ownership, so maybe he saw this coming.

Offline Dappleganger

  • Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 2020
    • View Profile
Re: Coyotes fire Maloney
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2016, 12:51:06 PM »
Maybe just time for a change.

I don't think Maloney has been doing a bad job. Quite the opposite but the results on the ice just aren't there... yet. I think the Yotes have a good core. Missing a top center.

Online WhatIfGodWasALeaf

  • All Star
  • *****
  • Posts: 7008
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Coyotes fire Maloney
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2016, 01:35:09 PM »
Rumors on twitter that ownership is intent on getting Matthews in the draft no matter what, Maloney was not on board because he knows it'll mean gutting the team.

Offline Zee

  • Sittler Status
  • ******
  • Posts: 13528
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Coyotes fire Maloney
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2016, 01:46:37 PM »
Rumors on twitter that ownership is intent on getting Matthews in the draft no matter what, Maloney was not on board because he knows it'll mean gutting the team.

So whoever gets that first pick could be in for a Coyotes winfall in a trade.  Interesting possibility if it's true.  Let's wait and see what happens at the lottery ball dropping before we start dreaming up some scenarios.  ;D

Online Heroic Shrimp

  • Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 4236
    • View Profile
Re: Coyotes fire Maloney
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2016, 01:48:57 PM »
Rumors on twitter that ownership is intent on getting Matthews in the draft no matter what, Maloney was not on board because he knows it'll mean gutting the team.

Imagine if that were true, that the Leafs quitely and secretly prefer Laine over Matthews anyway, and the lottery has it that Toronto picks #1 and Arizona #2.  It would be hilarious to see Arizona hand over a significant bunch of assets to draft a guy that would've dropped to them anyway if they did nothing.
Supersize my Freedom Fries

Online herman

  • Sittler Status
  • ******
  • Posts: 23979
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Coyotes fire Maloney
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2016, 01:49:59 PM »
Dreger and Mirtle were saying ownership was pushing for an analytics-driven management team.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2016, 02:09:35 PM by herman »
William Nylander Appreciation Account
#BeBlessed

Offline louisstamos

  • Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 1803
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
    • Diamond Weapon
Re: Coyotes fire Maloney
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2016, 01:58:42 PM »
Rumors on twitter that ownership is intent on getting Matthews in the draft no matter what, Maloney was not on board because he knows it'll mean gutting the team.

That wouldn't make sense to do now if that were the case.  What if Phoenix wins the lottery?

Online CarltonTheBear

  • Administrator
  • Sittler Status
  • *****
  • Posts: 29966
    • View Profile
Re: Coyotes fire Maloney
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2016, 02:01:58 PM »
Rumors on twitter that ownership is intent on getting Matthews in the draft no matter what, Maloney was not on board because he knows it'll mean gutting the team.

Just to be clear, that's akin to saying "I heard someone say this on the bus this morning". Nobody credible seems to actually be suggesting this.

Online CarltonTheBear

  • Administrator
  • Sittler Status
  • *****
  • Posts: 29966
    • View Profile
Re: Coyotes fire Maloney
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2016, 02:06:41 PM »
Damien Cox suggested this: Maloney would be the perfect GM for a potential Las Vegas team.

Online CarltonTheBear

  • Administrator
  • Sittler Status
  • *****
  • Posts: 29966
    • View Profile
Re: Coyotes fire Maloney
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2016, 02:56:54 PM »
Dreger and Mirtle were saying ownership was pushing for an analytics-driven management team.

I always wondered why the sens didn't look at analytics more. I don't think we'll see an Oakland A's/Moneyball situation in the NHL but they can still be incredibly worthwhile for a low-budget team. The Coyotes already have a very young analytics person as their AGM.

Online herman

  • Sittler Status
  • ******
  • Posts: 23979
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Coyotes fire Maloney
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2016, 03:10:55 PM »
Dreger and Mirtle were saying ownership was pushing for an analytics-driven management team.

I always wondered why the sens didn't look at analytics more. I don't think we'll see an Oakland A's/Moneyball situation in the NHL but they can still be incredibly worthwhile for a low-budget team. The Coyotes already have a very young analytics person as their AGM.
Yeah, that's where they should be spending to try to get better value talent.

Murray's replacement Pierre Dorion is pretty analytics friendly:
Source from 2015
Quote
K: There's a lot of news about analytics experts being hired around the league like mathematicians, bloggers, etc. Do the Sens currently employ anyone for analytics?

PD: Yes we do. We have an independent gentleman who we use. Our management side has used him and our coaches have used him as well. A lot of people publicize what they do with hockey analytics, we like to keep it all in-house. We have someone who we think is very capable of giving us really good information in terms of hockey analytics. We don't always agree with what he's saying, which is good because it's a totally different perspective than what we are used to dealing with. I think it opens our eyes and it makes us think about how we do things. I think it's a tool we use to make ourselves better.
William Nylander Appreciation Account
#BeBlessed

Online CarltonTheBear

  • Administrator
  • Sittler Status
  • *****
  • Posts: 29966
    • View Profile
Re: Coyotes fire Maloney
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2016, 03:58:06 PM »
Quote
Catherine Silverman ‏@CataCarryOn
"I am mystified at some of the pure fantasy that is written. 100 percent no potential that we will trade OEL for the draft pick" - Leblanc

Quote
Catherine Silverman ‏@CataCarryOn
Coyotes CEO/President Anthony Leblanc to Canadian media: "stop what you're drinking, stop what you're smoking" re: OEL for Matthews.

Online bustaheims

  • Sittler Status
  • ******
  • Posts: 22838
  • 56!
    • View Profile
Re: Coyotes fire Maloney
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2016, 04:15:03 PM »
Quote
Catherine Silverman ‏@CataCarryOn
"I am mystified at some of the pure fantasy that is written. 100 percent no potential that we will trade OEL for the draft pick" - Leblanc

Quote
Catherine Silverman ‏@CataCarryOn
Coyotes CEO/President Anthony Leblanc to Canadian media: "stop what you're drinking, stop what you're smoking" re: OEL for Matthews.

So, they're not trading for Matthews then? Cool.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Offline Nik

  • Sittler Status
  • ******
  • Posts: 28546
  • Not liking my posts is Cancel Culture
    • View Profile
Re: Coyotes fire Maloney
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2016, 04:38:07 PM »
Rumors on twitter that ownership is intent on getting Matthews in the draft no matter what, Maloney was not on board because he knows it'll mean gutting the team.

Just to be clear, that's akin to saying "I heard someone say this on the bus this morning". Nobody credible seems to actually be suggesting this.

And let's be fair, even the people who didn't like President Obama aren't as obsessed with what's on a guy's birth certificate than some hockey fans. Everyone else tends to look at it as a business.
Sports are like the reward of a functioning society
- Sean Doolittle

Online Frank E

  • All Star
  • *****
  • Posts: 5663
    • View Profile
Re: Coyotes fire Maloney
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2016, 04:47:39 PM »

And let's be fair, even the people who didn't like President Obama aren't as obsessed with what's on a guy's birth certificate than some hockey fans. Everyone else tends to look at it as a business.

...save those who think Stamkos signing in Toronto is a fait accompli.