Old Leaf management teams would have thrown this guy to the wolves and played him right off. This administration is doing the wise thing and actually developing him.

I don't remember the Leafs getting lucky like that much in the past couple seasons. Seems to happen against us a lot though.

I distinctly recall Cody Ceci and Roman Polak scoring off deflections on shots well wide of the net (as was their wont). Ceci's was a shorthanded goal to boot.

https://twitter.com/tictactomar/status/1291536176583761926
Part of an epic collapse

https://twitter.com/pppleafs/status/1056950353013415936
What a beauty

Ceci and Polak. That's like 4000 beers ago.
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Or last week 🥳

I'd rather see Joseph Woll get some games

Me to. He may do a Binnington

I'm speechless.

Hobart writes the bible

Any word on whats wrong with McMann?

Sorry Woll

Any inside scoop why the Leafs gave Dylan Ferguson to the Sens? They only signed him this summer no? I believe he's the tender that was suspended as an amateur. I may have the last name wrong guys sorry. I just haven't seen anything in this group on this at all.

He was only signed by the Marlies, not the Leafs. They let him go for an NHL contract opportunity.

Also, he was with Vegas last year. The guy you're thinking of is Dryden McKay.

Thanks Busta. Grey matter is a bit spongy these days. Glad it's not the guy I was thinking of. I'm curious how McKay makes out. I mean...the Leafs COULD possibly develop a #1 SOMETIME...right? Right?

What about HoLL?

With the NHL CBA including escrow, that was included for things like this - a buffer for deviations from projected vs actual revenues. My guess is the players will feel it first. Going forward, the NHL can be justified to increase escrow to help deal with this if it gets bumpier.

If media revenues go down, the players salaries effectively go down accordingly in the NHL via escrow. Having a business model and CBA with a mechanism (escrow) to help deal with this revenue turbulence seems like a good thing for both the league and the players. It provides some stability. The players will have some disappointment that their contracts are worth less than 100% but that has always been in place for moments like this.

Youtube advertising revenues has surpassed cable TV advertising revenues. The times are-a-changing. Sports leagues will need to adjust to get their fair piece of the viewer revenue pie as traditional broadcasting revenues splinter on the net. MLSE owners, Bell & Rogers, seem to be all over this which should help the league. I suspect the other major sports leagues are as well.

Like I said, I'm more interested in how this affects the cap than I am the actual carving up of dollars and cents between players and owners.

I don't think this is a short-term patch of turbulence. I think this is a wholesale shift in how sports teams address their media rights. The NHL, of all the leagues, is probably least well suited to the coming disruption as they neither have a massive national media deal that has a ton of value to a streaming service and the idea that Amazon or Google are particularly interested in acquiring the rights to a Tuesday night Hurricanes/Predators game seems pretty unlikely.

Canadian and big market teams are pretty safe but your smaller market and non-traditional market US teams are about to have a ton of media inventory with no obvious buyer out there to sell it to. Do they try direct selling to fans? Given the ratings some of these teams see, they'll be getting a tiny fraction the money they could get from RSN's who lived on charging carrier fees, rather than advertising.

This is a major pillar of the current pro sports business model and the owners idiot-proofing their leagues aside, we're almost certainly going to see reasonably substantial changes ahead.

I think Nik has hit the nail on the head.  I am in AZ for the winter, no cable in the house, only YouTube and my subscriptions to Amazon Prime, Netflix and Apple TV. My  phone is on a service called Mint Mobile.  I pay 15 bucks a month for unlimited talk and text in the US and Canada and even the UK (which is great as my wife is British) and includes 4GB of data. Who owns Mint Mobile?  Ryan Reynolds!
Koodo was doing me the favour of charging me 12 dollars a day for using their services here. Thanks Koodo, most endearing of you.

Can you get it in Canada, of course not because we are the most ripped off country in the world when it comes to Internet/TV/ Cable services. No YouTube TV. 
Basically the world is changing so fast that you need to be really tuned in to know what is going to happen next.  From a marketing perspective its like standing on quicksand. What worked yesterday is gone today and so we see contracts for services drying up in the Internet vortex. 
Look at VOX and PPP and what that service is going through. Why the Athletic had to add adds to the site to survive.  And at the base of it is our online services for purchasing anything we want with delivery the same day in some cases.
The basic truth is that as powerful as Internet marketing is, it is not the be all and end all of all marketing tools. Only the people who know proper content in building websites and advertising them make it.
The really hard truth is the majority of people trying to make it on the Internet is sad fail. 

I liked Engvall a lot, always seemed he'd slip into a Superman outfit and break out and be the monster his potential whispered of.  In a strict business sense we turned a 7th round pick into a 3rd round pick.

If they fail to beat Tampa and they let go of Dubas as a result, I'd be disillusioned with the entire operation of MLSE. I know it's the name of the game but sometimes results take longer than expected . Even much longer. And this team is still making strides forwards... not backwards.

That scenario would have a lot of similarities with the Steve Jobs story. When Apple couldn't compete with the top players in the game, like Microsoft and IBM and as quickly as the board wanted, they let him go and brought in the CEO from Pepsi, who didn't have a clue about the PC industry.  It nearly bankrupted the company before they realized their mistake and brought Jobs and his vision back to Apple.

As we know he proceeded to turn Apple into one of the biggest companies on the planet. Point being ... sometimes management change 'isn't' the answer. Sometimes you need to keep emotions in check and out of the decision making process,  trust the guy who's still making the team better year after year and give him the room to see it through .

Call me a dreamer I guess.

Keep on being a lovely dreamer.  I share your sentiments.

I hear a lot of people saying Dubas is finished in Toronto if they fail to beat Tampa in the first round again this year.

How sure is everyone here that will be the case?

It's hard to look at the fact that they chose not to extend him, as well as the futures he's burned in the last week, and not make the assertion that his future with the club is tied directly to their playoff performance.

I think he's a good GM and I'm not sure I'd want to go in a different direction either, but the situation regarding his future looks pretty clear.

Red Leaf, I respect your reasoned response but it's a results-oriented business.  If they lose in R1 again, how can you justify re-signing Dubas to do more of the same?  SOMETHING would have to give, and Dubas is, for better or worse, invested in the core 4 + Reilly + Keefe.

Dubas is a wonderful guy and I like everything about him as a person.  That's not nothing.  And like all GMs he's had his hits and misses.  I don't think, however, that he's irreplaceable.

If they go out in R1 again, no matter how, he's gone (and so will Keefe).  And should be. 

Yeah they'll bring worse people in and we'll be rebuilding again in 3 years. :(

Totally agreed. Dubas stays or I go!!

TFC collapsed in the final minutes of the game. What is 8+ minutes of overtime though? Insigne injured but Akinola played better than the 15 million dollar man when he replaced the Italian striker. Not sure but my gut says Isigne is really injury prone and not getting any younger.

Why don't they give Woll another game?

Mike Koster scores two for Minnesota, the 2nd off an assist by Knies.  Kids got a wicked shot.

I have to say, that Holl is having a decent game which for me to admit as a non fan of kids in the Holl is a good admission.