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« Reply #360 on: December 01, 2018, 10:04:23 PM »

I like Brian Burke, I think he's a smart guy when he's not trying to make waves on TV but nothing is a better representation of his time here than arguing that guys should get paid according to their place in the depth chart rather than how good they actually are.
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« Reply #361 on: December 01, 2018, 10:18:06 PM »

I like Brian Burke, I think he's a smart guy when he's not trying to make waves on TV but nothing is a better representation of his time here than arguing that guys should get paid according to their place in the depth chart rather than how good they actually are.
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« Reply #361 on: December 01, 2018, 10:18:06 PM »

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« Reply #362 on: December 01, 2018, 11:12:09 PM »
And that's the thing. While Willy may be the 6th on the depth chart he could be 1st or second on some teams. Leafs are deep.

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« Reply #363 on: December 05, 2018, 11:10:54 AM »
So is Brian Burke the new bill watters?

He says the same thing every time he’s on now.

‘Way overpaid for nykander’

‘Leafs are in cap hell and have had no playoff success, it should be the other way around’

‘Nylander is he 7th best player on the leafs’

‘Leafs can’t keep all 3’

And then he always ends with ‘I like Dubas, he’s a very smart man’

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« Reply #364 on: December 05, 2018, 11:39:31 AM »
I like him when he gives insights/details from back when he was a GM/President, but yeah when he's discussing current events it's pretty clear he's a little behind.

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« Reply #365 on: December 05, 2018, 11:56:57 AM »
I like him when he gives insights/details from back when he was a GM/President, but yeah when he's discussing current events it's pretty clear he's a little behind.

Burke said that the Leafs would have had Nylander penciled in at 5.25-6.0M in prior to the season.

Yeah, that's pretty far behind the current NHL landscape.

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« Reply #366 on: December 05, 2018, 12:09:16 PM »
I like him when he gives insights/details from back when he was a GM/President, but yeah when he's discussing current events it's pretty clear he's a little behind.

Burke said that the Leafs would have had Nylander penciled in at 5.25-6.0M in prior to the season.

Yeah, that's pretty far behind the current NHL landscape.
5.25?? He's out of his mind unless that's on a bridge deal.
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« Reply #367 on: December 05, 2018, 01:18:37 PM »
I like him when he gives insights/details from back when he was a GM/President, but yeah when he's discussing current events it's pretty clear he's a little behind.

Burke said that the Leafs would have had Nylander penciled in at 5.25-6.0M in prior to the season.

Yeah, that's pretty far behind the current NHL landscape.
5.25?? He's out of his mind unless that's on a bridge deal.

Yeah, I mean even if you took Ehlers as the absolute low-end, his cap hit was still 8% which would have put Nylander at $6.4 minimum.

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« Reply #368 on: December 06, 2018, 06:45:03 PM »
The Leafs are ranked at #2 in valuation by Forbes, 100 million behind the Rangers:

http://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/25459576/rangers-top-forbes-list-most-valuable-teams

It has the Leafs as behind the Rangers and Habs in terms of revenues and profitability with those three clubs in a different league than just about every other team in the league. Still, there's a lot of money being made in the league right now.
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« Reply #369 on: December 11, 2018, 04:31:13 PM »
I saw some discussion in the Nylander thread about Ferraro and O'Neil, and it made me think to post this as a possible point of interest.

I was always a loyal listener of The Fan for as long as I can remember. I was around when 1430 CJCL went to the all sports format and I remember the day that they switched down the dial to 590 - a great day for someone outside Toronto. Anyway, I always believed that Bob McCowan was the best interviewer in the business and that is why PTS always had my attention on my drive home.

But this past summer I started to listen to TSN 1050 a lot more and it has now taken over. I like the Landsberg and Colaiacovo team and I really like Hayes, Noodles and the O dog. I used to think calling them by nick names was a bit silly and that PTS was the more serious sports show, but that is no longer the case.

The Monday after Willie signed Dubas was doing the rounds and I listened to him on TSN Overdrive and on The Fan PTS and the interview on TSN was much much better. In fact, McCowan really showed how little he seems to follow the Leafs as he did that interview.

Anyway, I was wondering, in a sort of informal way, who people here prefer to listen to. As I said, after 25 years with The Fan, I have fully switched over to TSN..... though I have to say that their signal strength is brutal north of Toronto.

p.s. Ray Ferraro is also by far my favourite hockey analyst right now, so I like having him on TSN radio every day just after 5 PM as well.

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« Reply #370 on: December 11, 2018, 04:52:02 PM »
McCown has never been great for hockey. It's usually pretty obvious he doesn't really follow the sport, never mind the Leafs.
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« Reply #371 on: December 11, 2018, 05:56:36 PM »
I saw some discussion in the Nylander thread about Ferraro and O'Neil, and it made me think to post this as a possible point of interest.

I was always a loyal listener of The Fan for as long as I can remember. I was around when 1430 CJCL went to the all sports format and I remember the day that they switched down the dial to 590 - a great day for someone outside Toronto. Anyway, I always believed that Bob McCowan was the best interviewer in the business and that is why PTS always had my attention on my drive home.

But this past summer I started to listen to TSN 1050 a lot more and it has now taken over. I like the Landsberg and Colaiacovo team and I really like Hayes, Noodles and the O dog. I used to think calling them by nick names was a bit silly and that PTS was the more serious sports show, but that is no longer the case.

The Monday after Willie signed Dubas was doing the rounds and I listened to him on TSN Overdrive and on The Fan PTS and the interview on TSN was much much better. In fact, McCowan really showed how little he seems to follow the Leafs as he did that interview.

Anyway, I was wondering, in a sort of informal way, who people here prefer to listen to. As I said, after 25 years with The Fan, I have fully switched over to TSN..... though I have to say that their signal strength is brutal north of Toronto.

p.s. Ray Ferraro is also by far my favourite hockey analyst right now, so I like having him on TSN radio every day just after 5 PM as well.
Bob McClown is the worst interviewer ever. He will badmouth anyone and as soon as they're on the show he kisses their ass. never liked him.
Tsn is where it's at. Overdrive is great and Ferraro is also great. Loved the way he put Hayes in his place yesterday. Hayes got all sucky and wanted to take his ball and go home lol. Also like how O'Neill will say anything and doesn't care who's offended by it.

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« Reply #372 on: December 11, 2018, 06:06:11 PM »
I saw some discussion in the Nylander thread about Ferraro and O'Neil, and it made me think to post this as a possible point of interest.

I was always a loyal listener of The Fan for as long as I can remember. I was around when 1430 CJCL went to the all sports format and I remember the day that they switched down the dial to 590 - a great day for someone outside Toronto. Anyway, I always believed that Bob McCowan was the best interviewer in the business and that is why PTS always had my attention on my drive home.

But this past summer I started to listen to TSN 1050 a lot more and it has now taken over. I like the Landsberg and Colaiacovo team and I really like Hayes, Noodles and the O dog. I used to think calling them by nick names was a bit silly and that PTS was the more serious sports show, but that is no longer the case.

The Monday after Willie signed Dubas was doing the rounds and I listened to him on TSN Overdrive and on The Fan PTS and the interview on TSN was much much better. In fact, McCowan really showed how little he seems to follow the Leafs as he did that interview.

Anyway, I was wondering, in a sort of informal way, who people here prefer to listen to. As I said, after 25 years with The Fan, I have fully switched over to TSN..... though I have to say that their signal strength is brutal north of Toronto.

p.s. Ray Ferraro is also by far my favourite hockey analyst right now, so I like having him on TSN radio every day just after 5 PM as well.
TSN loyalist here, I can't stand the fan590 personalities. Been listening to Hayes, Noodles and ODog since they hosted Leafs lunch a few years ago. In my opinion, Overdrive is the best sports talk show in the country. The rapport they have together and the casual style conversations they have is great. Makes me laugh all the time too.

Morning show is ok but Landsberg can get on your nerves after awhile.

McKenzie and Ferraro are the best hockey analysts and I always make sure to listen to their segments.

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« Reply #373 on: December 11, 2018, 06:26:48 PM »

The thing about McCown, the way I've always seen it, is that his background is more in the sports business side of things and the Vegas element. When he's asked to talk about sports as if winning and losing actually matters, it's clear he doesn't buy into it and doesn't care much about it. Opinions on CBA negotiations sure, whether or not the third line needs more scoring isn't his thing.

That's why I've only ever really liked the Friday version of his show.
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« Reply #374 on: December 12, 2018, 11:23:12 AM »

The thing about McCown, the way I've always seen it, is that his background is more in the sports business side of things and the Vegas element. When he's asked to talk about sports as if winning and losing actually matters, it's clear he doesn't buy into it and doesn't care much about it. Opinions on CBA negotiations sure, whether or not the third line needs more scoring isn't his thing.

That's why I've only ever really liked the Friday version of his show.

I agree about the business side of things. If McCowan was discussing CBA negotiations (say, in the NHL) and hat remaining sticking points there were etc. I would give him the edge in those conversations. But for most day to day sports talk he is being severely outmatched right now by the boys over at Overdrive. For that reason, I do not even listen to the round table on Fridays anymore. TSN essentially does the same idea with a fun twist in their "Mail It In" Fridays and the insight into the game is better in my opinion.

One caveat that I will make to this, and it is about Steve Simmons. I dislike him so much that I will change the station anytime I hear him come on. Regardless of what he might know or what usefulness he may have to offer, I just dislike him so much that I will not even give him a chance anymore.