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Bender:

--- Quote from: Nik on May 31, 2022, 11:14:51 PM ---
--- Quote from: herman on May 31, 2022, 09:50:32 AM ---Anyone else watch the first two episodes? Ewan was great, as was Moses (Reva), but the writing was... very Prequely. Is it just going to be the Mandalorian with more talking and face acting?

Obi-Wan: Clone Wars sequel
Ahsoka: Rebels sequel

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I thought it felt like most of the modern day Star Wars stuff. Superficially it's well made and well casted and talented people are involved throughout so it's never going to be "bad" the way the Prequel movies were but it also seems entirely uninterested in giving us anything new or presenting something with real stakes.

Like, I get it's Star Wars and everything but one of the reasons Rogue One worked to the extent it did is they were all new characters and we didn't know what might happen to any of them. Here, we effectively know everything that will happen to all of them.

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I mean, I found The Mandalorian really slow and mostly boring and gave up on it. I'm actually really curious about the intermediate period between episode 3 and 4 and seeing as it was one of the most watched premieres in Disney history I think a lot of people feel that way too.

Nik:

--- Quote from: Bender on May 31, 2022, 11:19:08 PM ---I mean, I found The Mandalorian really slow and mostly boring and gave up on it. I'm actually really curious about the intermediate period between episode 3 and 4 and seeing as it was one of the most watched premieres in Disney history I think a lot of people feel that way too.

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Well, sure. Rogue One, likewise, is set between 3 and 4 but it gave us new characters who we didn't know all about. There was an old N64 game that I think was called Shadow of the Empire which is set between Empire and Jedi but, again, they didn't make, like, "Will Han Solo get unfrozen" a major point of tension because, you know, we knew he would.

But if other people like it that's great! I actually like that not everything is for everyone. I was just replying with what I thought about it.

herman:

--- Quote from: Nik on May 31, 2022, 11:14:51 PM ---I thought it felt like most of the modern day Star Wars stuff. Superficially it's well made and well casted and talented people are involved throughout so it's never going to be "bad" the way the Prequel movies were but it also seems entirely uninterested in giving us anything new or presenting something with real stakes.

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Yeah, that's the crux of it. The animated shows really worked because there were characters to invest in that did not have clear destinies in the films. They also filled out the main characters from the films and redeemed those arcs with more sensical motivations. There was a good story and themes in the prequels, hamstrung by priorities on visual effects (that do not hold up) and atrocious dialogue.

Mandalorian worked because there was a pseudo mystery and a classic assassin begrudgingly adopts a child trope in a space western. Boba Fett didn't work until it turned into a show about the Mandalorian instead. Han Solo didn't really add anything other than making the Millenium Falcon weird.

Bullfrog:
Rogue One worked because it had Felicity Jones. Then they killed her.

The only good thing about Episode One was Darth Maul. Then they killed him. (and maybe the pod race, which was fun, especially in theatre)

herman:

--- Quote from: Bullfrog on June 01, 2022, 09:42:36 AM ---The only good thing about Episode One was Darth Maul.

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Fun fact: the Star Wars big wigs knew this, and subsequently Darth Maul has been in pretty much every new Star Wars thing since then.

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