Quick links:  Login  |  Sign up  |  Site Rules  |  Support TMLfans

Menu

Show posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.

Show posts Menu

Messages - OldTimeHockey

#2
General NHL News & Views / Re: 2023-24 NHL Thread
April 09, 2024, 04:19:05 PM
Quote from: Highlander on April 09, 2024, 11:01:28 AM
Quote from: Rob on April 08, 2024, 05:01:58 PM
Quote from: herman on April 08, 2024, 04:40:25 PMhttps://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1777428086163693744
lol.



So really, the only person on the planet who wants NHL hockey in Arizona is Gary Bettman.
The Mayor is a dick. I know the parcel of land in question, right beside Desert Ridge Mall (a really nice mall), also boarders a very chic shopping street and resto's a that have become a bit of a white elephant. The Arena would cure that problem big time. Believe me, the site is perfect.

Do we really think that Arizona is a case of "if we build it, they will come"? The team has not had an average attendance of over 15k since 2005/2006. And even with that, they've only had 5 seasons (out of 26), where they've been above that 15,000 mark. Perhaps 13-15k is sufficient to make the team viable, but considering they spent 2012-2020 in that range and there was constant talk of the team being broke, I'd say it isn't.
#3
Quote from: Guilt Trip on April 09, 2024, 11:19:58 AM
Quote from: OldTimeHockey on April 09, 2024, 10:52:46 AM
Quote from: herman on April 09, 2024, 08:40:21 AMThe Marlies have loaned players to the Wichita Thunder previously, including Bobby McMann (Edmonton's affiliate at the time, now San Jose's); it's kind of far.

Brampton lost the OHL Battalion to North Bay due to attendance issues, and the ECHL Beasts folded in 2020-21 (obvious reasons). I can see it working there again.

Mississauga Steelheads are moving to Brampton for next season due to poor attendance in Mississauga. Overall it's only a 7km move so I'm not sure what will change. Brampton lost the Battalion to North Bay 10 years ago due to poor attendance.

Apparently, for the recent Sudbury/Mississauga 1st round playoff series, games in Mississauga saw more Sudbury fans than Steelhead fans.
They need to make it more affordable. I go to the games when I can get tickets for a decent price. I'm not paying $25 to watch that when I can go watch Midget AAA for free and see multiple games in a night.

I don't mind paying the $25 to support the local Junior team. It's an expensive program to run and if we don't support it, it disappears. I understand that compared to Toronto, there's far less distractions here in Sudbury. Here, if you want a night out, a junior game is a good escape for a hockey focused family.

So with that said, I do understand why the support isn't necessarily there in Toronto. Making it cheaper may make it more attractive to families. But I'm not 100% sure what the leeway is there. How much can they knock off the ticket prices/popcorn prices and still make it a viable program?

Doing a quick look at other large cities, and their junior programs, it seems they do get more support.

Calgary Hitmen - Avg Attendance: 4529 (They have gone down significantly since covid. They actually peaked in 2004/2005 with over 10,000/game, but that coincides with the NHL lockout)

Vancouver Giants - Avg Attendance: 3673. They also peaked in mid 2000's but have been in the 3500-3750 range for the past 6 seasons

Edmonton Oil Kings - Avg Attendance: 7404

Seattle Thunderbirds - Avg Attendance: 4654

Mississauga Steelheads - Avg Attendance: 2434(lowest in OHL the past two seasons)

#4
Quote from: herman on April 09, 2024, 08:40:21 AMThe Marlies have loaned players to the Wichita Thunder previously, including Bobby McMann (Edmonton's affiliate at the time, now San Jose's); it's kind of far.

Brampton lost the OHL Battalion to North Bay due to attendance issues, and the ECHL Beasts folded in 2020-21 (obvious reasons). I can see it working there again.

Mississauga Steelheads are moving to Brampton for next season due to poor attendance in Mississauga. Overall it's only a 7km move so I'm not sure what will change. Brampton lost the Battalion to North Bay 10 years ago due to poor attendance.

Apparently, for the recent Sudbury/Mississauga 1st round playoff series, games in Mississauga saw more Sudbury fans than Steelhead fans.
#5
Quote from: Guilt Trip on April 09, 2024, 10:04:36 AMThe original pass from AM34 to Marner was pretty cool...One handed backhand "Sauce" from the goal line.


Fixed
#6
General NHL News & Views / Re: 2023-24 NHL Thread
April 07, 2024, 12:09:21 PM
Like watching a soccer match.
#7
General NHL News & Views / Re: 2023-24 NHL Thread
April 05, 2024, 03:12:05 PM
So they're building in Kanata?
#8
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on April 03, 2024, 01:31:31 PM
Quote from: OldTimeHockey on April 03, 2024, 01:08:42 PMQuite the player. Been in the AHL for 7 or 8 years and has never reached double digits in goals.

Duszak's a defenceman, so that's not too unusual. It's also why he took issue with the coaching staff occasionally putting him in the line-up as a 4th line forward despite leading the teams defencemen in scoring by a considerable margin.

I still maintain that I don't want a player on my team that throws tantrums because he's being asked to go outside his comfort zone for the good of the group. He had an outside shot of backdooring it into the NHL and chose himself over the team. Not a good look. And the fact no other NHL team has picked him up on a two-way kind of reflects that.
#9
Quite the player. Been in the AHL for 7 or 8 years and has never reached double digits in goals.
#11
Quote from: cabber24 on March 28, 2024, 08:22:33 AMI guess what you're saying the coach really doesn't do anything at all. Sign me up for that job.

Nope. Not what I'm saying at all.

An NHL coach's job is to strategize, make line up decisions, and devise/implement plans to be successful.

Every NHL program has people responsible for the development of their draft picks and young players. These people come up with development plans for each player. It is then the job of the players to follow these plans to try and develop to the point that they are a valuable part of the NHL roster.

An NHL coach may be responsible for evaluating the growth of said players. But they certainly aren't the fall guy if said players do not meet the expectations set for them.

If players are never meeting those expectations, then an internal look at the development/scouting team would be warranted.
#12
I'm not sure how the development of young players falls on the head coach. Utilization, sure...But development is not the job of the head coach.
#13
How did Tavares get carried away? I was only able to watch half of the second period.
#15
The Leafs played quite well this game. Tavares was the best leaf on the ice for most of the night. Obviously you don't want to give up two in the last 2 minutes, but overall the team was the better group.

I wasn't a big fan of Domi going into the shootout. Also not a big fan of him on the ice in OT on the powerplay. Actually, not a big fan of him on the ice at all.

As for the shootout, Toronto's approach was mediocre at best. They made it extremely easy on the Canes goaltender. They were trying to get him to open up as they approached, but with no lateral movement whatsoever, it makes it very easy for him to stay square and in position. Once he didn't move, or give up the five-hole, the Leafs had no choice but to bring it to the backhand and hope it squeaked through. Easy save for a goalie when you're on the top of the crease with no room to get it up. The Canes goalie showed in the game that he was struggling handling/controlling shots, why a deke mentality was brought to the shootout is beyond me.