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Show posts MenuQuote from: bustaheims on March 01, 2023, 07:27:37 PMQuote from: CarltonTheBear on March 01, 2023, 06:12:15 PMNot trade related but how on earth does the sens social media manager not know how to thread tweets together??
Because they cheaped out, as usual. Probably just some random admin person running their socials.
Quote from: Dappleganger on March 01, 2023, 09:37:41 AMQuote from: OldTimeHockey on March 01, 2023, 07:02:59 AMQuote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on February 28, 2023, 05:27:20 PMQuote from: Guilt Trip on February 28, 2023, 05:15:09 PMQuote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on February 28, 2023, 05:02:50 PMI'm not sure I'm on board with the roster changing THIS much. Keefe is going to have his hands full figuring it all out.Why. He moved out 2 guys that have ahard time with the heavy game.
Sandin is a big loss. As I said earlier, we'll be rueing this like we did Stralman. Engvall's return is an irritant to me, but I don't have a problem moving him, even though I like parts of his game.
And my point is that rejiggering the chemistry will be a big challenge for the coaches.
Maybe it's just me, but was there a lot of "rueing" done over Stralman? Like did anyone look back over the years and think "man if we could turn back time". I'll give you that Stralman had a pretty ok career. But personally, I don't remember ever thinking "we'd be so much better if we had Anton Stralman".
I'm not over the moon on the Sandin deal, but I also don't think losing him moves the needle a lot. He was the number 5 or 6 dman on this team for much of the season....even with a rash of injuries. His use was trending downwards and was going to be even less with McCabe added to the roster. I mean, if we're going to look solely at offensive upside(which is the majority of what Sandin brings at this point), Connor Timmins has 7 less points in 30 less games.
Sure I'd like a little more return for Sandin as I do think he has potential to be pretty good. Unfortunately, he hasn't shown much of that yet so his value isn't going to be as high as we'd like it to be.
I think the Stralman thing is, if you at all the Leafs trades over the last 20 years, he's one of the few players traded away, who was a legit NHL player, and went on to have a decent career. Most didn't.
Quote from: Zee on March 01, 2023, 08:49:41 AMQuote from: Nik on March 01, 2023, 08:15:16 AMQuote from: OldTimeHockey on March 01, 2023, 07:02:59 AMMaybe it's just me, but was there a lot of "rueing" done over Stralman? Like did anyone look back over the years and think "man if we could turn back time". I'll give you that Stralman had a pretty ok career. But personally, I don't remember ever thinking "we'd be so much better if we had Anton Stralman".
It's certainly not on the level of, say, Rask I agree. I do think there was quite a bit of regret over it but not because Stralman became some sort of legend or anything but more because he was indicative of a general dissatisfaction with the club and their ability to identify talented players during a real low point for the club. Like, the Stralman trade came the year after the Jeff Finger signing.
And I do think there's maybe some parallel with how this deal is being perceived. Like I said in my review of the trade, I don't think the value here is way off but there is a sort of, like, wondering why you'd do this with one of the team's very few young assets with potential when it doesn't seem necessary.
I also equated Sandin's loss to Stralman. Not to say Stralman was a legend by any means, but he had a solid career in the league, played in over 100 playoff games and went to two Stanley Cup Finals. If Sandin's career turns out as good as that, well, it's better than any Leafs defenseman of the last 56 years. At least the Leafs received a 1st back in the deal, which can be used to acquire someone else, so it's better than the Stralman trade for sure.
Quote from: Nik on March 01, 2023, 08:15:16 AMQuote from: OldTimeHockey on March 01, 2023, 07:02:59 AMMaybe it's just me, but was there a lot of "rueing" done over Stralman? Like did anyone look back over the years and think "man if we could turn back time". I'll give you that Stralman had a pretty ok career. But personally, I don't remember ever thinking "we'd be so much better if we had Anton Stralman".
It's certainly not on the level of, say, Rask I agree. I do think there was quite a bit of regret over it but not because Stralman became some sort of legend or anything but more because he was indicative of a general dissatisfaction with the club and their ability to identify talented players during a real low point for the club. Like, the Stralman trade came the year after the Jeff Finger signing.
And I do think there's maybe some parallel with how this deal is being perceived. Like I said in my review of the trade, I don't think the value here is way off but there is a sort of, like, wondering why you'd do this with one of the team's very few young assets with potential when it doesn't seem necessary.
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on March 01, 2023, 08:38:42 AMSeems fine for the Kings. Will really depend on if Korpisalo keeps playing well. If they moved Quick, who was obviously very much loved in that dressing room, to get Korpisalo and he doesn't end up being an upgrade over him and that'd be pretty rough.
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on February 28, 2023, 05:27:20 PMQuote from: Guilt Trip on February 28, 2023, 05:15:09 PMQuote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on February 28, 2023, 05:02:50 PMI'm not sure I'm on board with the roster changing THIS much. Keefe is going to have his hands full figuring it all out.Why. He moved out 2 guys that have ahard time with the heavy game.
Sandin is a big loss. As I said earlier, we'll be rueing this like we did Stralman. Engvall's return is an irritant to me, but I don't have a problem moving him, even though I like parts of his game.
And my point is that rejiggering the chemistry will be a big challenge for the coaches.
Quote from: L K on February 27, 2023, 04:05:45 PMQuote from: lamajama on February 27, 2023, 03:58:49 PMWhat really p***es me off is that due to
the stupid playoff structure after the first round some incredible Eastern teams are going to be out.
Pffft. Want to explode your sport Gary?
At minimum 1 v 8. In my dreams 1 v 16.
I mean in fairness to the 1v8
Current format
Boston v Pittsburgh
Toronto v Tampa
Carolina v NYI
NJ v NYR
1v8 format
Boston v Pittsburgh
Carolina v NYI
NJ v NYR
Toronto v Tampa
It's the same format. It just gets bad in round 2.
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