Devils waive Trent Hunter and Colin White... buyout to follow

Started by CarltonTheBear, August 01, 2011, 12:35:46 PM

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CarltonTheBear

Quote@mirtle James Mirtle
Devils put Colin White and Trent Hunter on waivers for the purpose of a buyout. Will give them plenty of cap space.

White's buyout cap hit will be $1-million over next two years. Hunter's will be $666,667 for the next four years.

I'm a little surprised at the decision to buyout White. He might have been a bit overpaid, but I thought he was a pretty serviceable guy.

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Quote from: CarltonTheBear on August 01, 2011, 12:35:46 PM
Quote@mirtle James Mirtle
Devils put Colin White and Trent Hunter on waivers for the purpose of a buyout. Will give them plenty of cap space.

White's buyout cap hit will be $1-million over next two years. Hunter's will be $666,667 for the next four years.

I'm a little surprised at the decision to buyout White. He might have been a bit overpaid, but I thought he was a pretty serviceable guy.

I could never be an NHL owner.  No matter how rich I was, I could never stomach just pouring $4M+ down the drain.

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This doesn't make much sense to me but I like Trent Hunter and I hope the Leafs pick him up.
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CarltonTheBear

Quote from: McPwnage on August 01, 2011, 12:47:02 PM
This doesn't make much sense to me but I like Trent Hunter and I hope the Leafs pick him up.

If it wasn't for his health he'd be a nice addition to our 4th line, rotating at right-wing with Orr. But at this point I'd probably rather see Dupuis in that role.

Omallley

White surprises me as well, but this certainly gives the Devils some breathing room with Parise.

Tigger

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on August 01, 2011, 12:50:21 PM
Quote from: McPwnage on August 01, 2011, 12:47:02 PM
This doesn't make much sense to me but I like Trent Hunter and I hope the Leafs pick him up.

If it wasn't for his health he'd be a nice addition to our 4th line, rotating at right-wing with Orr. But at this point I'd probably rather see Dupuis in that role.

I don't understand your preference here.
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bustaheims

Quote from: Tigger on August 01, 2011, 07:02:48 PM
I don't understand your preference here.

He'd prefer the healthy player to the frequently injured one?
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Tigger

Not sure I understand the point of this buyout. White only as 1 year left ( though with an ntc ) and Hunter has 2, couldn't they just bury these guys if they really need the cap space? The savings add up to what, 2.5 ish? Seems odd overall.
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Tigger

Quote from: Busta Reims on August 01, 2011, 07:30:14 PM
Quote from: Tigger on August 01, 2011, 07:02:48 PM
I don't understand your preference here.

He'd prefer the healthy player to the frequently injured one?

I guess. Not that I'm overly high on Hunter but I think I'd take the chance with him, maybe in a rotating role with Orr as suggested, Dupuis just doesn't seem like much to me. Hunter at least has some size and has shown some NHL scoring ability in the past.
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CarltonTheBear

Quote from: Busta Reims on August 01, 2011, 07:30:14 PM
Quote from: Tigger on August 01, 2011, 07:02:48 PM
I don't understand your preference here.

He'd prefer the healthy player to the frequently injured one?

Pretty much. But I also have liked what I've read about Dupuis. And I'm not so sure how Hunter would fare in a 4th line role, don't know much about his defensive abilities.

Nik

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on August 01, 2011, 08:32:08 PM
Pretty much. But I also have liked what I've read about Dupuis. And I'm not so sure how Hunter would fare in a 4th line role, don't know much about his defensive abilities.

I said it in the Rolston thread but if Hunter was a good defensive player/PK'er it doesn't look as though he is anymore as the Islanders have basically stopped using him in that role.

No scoring, doesn't seem to be great defensively, 31 years old, doesn't block shots, injured all the time...I'm having trouble seeing why he's a good roll of the dice.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
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Frank E

Quote from: Saint Nik on August 01, 2011, 09:14:35 PM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on August 01, 2011, 08:32:08 PM
Pretty much. But I also have liked what I've read about Dupuis. And I'm not so sure how Hunter would fare in a 4th line role, don't know much about his defensive abilities.

I said it in the Rolston thread but if Hunter was a good defensive player/PK'er it doesn't look as though he is anymore as the Islanders have basically stopped using him in that role.

No scoring, doesn't seem to be great defensively, 31 years old, doesn't block shots, injured all the time...I'm having trouble seeing why he's a good roll of the dice.

As they say about your girlfriends, he's got bruises all over his face from some idiots touching him with ten foot poles.

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: Saint Nik on August 01, 2011, 09:14:35 PM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on August 01, 2011, 08:32:08 PM
Pretty much. But I also have liked what I've read about Dupuis. And I'm not so sure how Hunter would fare in a 4th line role, don't know much about his defensive abilities.

I said it in the Rolston thread but if Hunter was a good defensive player/PK'er it doesn't look as though he is anymore as the Islanders have basically stopped using him in that role.

No scoring, doesn't seem to be great defensively, 31 years old, doesn't block shots, injured all the time...I'm having trouble seeing why he's a good roll of the dice.

Like I said, I had no idea how his defensive game is. But seeing as how he got next-to-no PK time last season with the Islanders, I can only assume it's not really a strength of his. In that case, I pretty much have no interest.

I think people are focusing too much on what he used to be as opposed to what he is now. Back when he signed his contract I thought it was going to be a steal. Now, not so much.

Tigger

Quote from: Saint Nik on August 01, 2011, 09:14:35 PM
I'm having trouble seeing why he's a good roll of the dice.

Compared to an Orr or a Dupuis?

He used to pk quite a bit, top minutes in fact and is only one real season removed from performing that role ( though lessened ) but I wouldn't be expecting the world from him that way, just the experience and depth.

He likes to hit and doesn't take many penalties.

Anywho, just the fact that we're talking about him potentially being in a 4th line role means things have changed for him quite a bit and if he came cheap I don't see a problem. If he really couldn't beat out the likes of Dupuis in camp then good luck, god bless.
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Nik

Quote from: Tigger on August 02, 2011, 02:29:09 PM
Compared to an Orr or a Dupuis?

Well, compared to Orr I think we could argue about the value of an enforcer in the line-up if you were so inclined but I think it'd be ridiculous to argue that Hunter is a better fourth line player than Orr is an enforcer so I'd be more inclined towards Orr in that role. Compared to Dupuis, who I don't know much about, Hunter is 5 years older, injury prone and hasn't been used in a significant PK'ing role for some time so my inclination would be towards Dupuis, who did kill penalties last year, as well.

If the Leafs were looking for a veteran presence on the 4th line I'd favour Drury over Hunter by leaps and bounds.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi