I have to admit, it was a funny set of circumstances that led me to being a Leafs fan and a Jets fan. Not funny ha-ha, exactly but....
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Quote from: CarltonTheBear on August 31, 2023, 10:12:10 AMOk, ok, war crime cancelled I didn't take that into consideration. Although that 2016 team was way too fun and successful for the league to think it's a good idea to try again so I'd be surprised if it was there.
Quote from: mr grieves on August 27, 2023, 07:43:40 PMThe part that I'm stuck on is the AAV -- well, less that than the share of the cap Matthews will consume. If the cap's $90m when the deal kicks in, it'll be 14.7% share of the team's cap. Looking at CapFriendly's historical archive (back to 15-16 season), the highest share of the cap any one player consumed was 13.3% (Malkin in 15-16).
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on August 24, 2023, 12:16:50 PMNik, you are sitting at 29,999 posts. Make sure the next one is worthy of being set in stone.
Quote from: cw on August 24, 2023, 11:51:52 AMQuote from: Nik on August 23, 2023, 04:59:20 PMHey, remember when people said he'd leave as a free agent for Arizona?
Now that that's officially behind us we can all admit...that was the dumbest thing anyone could have thought, right? Like, no sought after UFA in hockey right now is signing in Arizona unless there's a gun to their head.
If Matthews hangs around after this four years, he'll have a bundle of franchise records.
However, in four years time, depending on their building & ownership, Az might be an attractive destination as an up and coming team. They've stock piled some youth on their roster and a lot of youngsters in their system (RESERVE LIST: 79/90). They have 13 extra picks over the next 3 years.
Quote from: Bill_Berg_is_less_sad on August 24, 2023, 09:55:04 AMQuote from: Nik on August 24, 2023, 09:18:32 AMQuote from: Bender on August 24, 2023, 09:13:10 AMThat's really the only saving grace here, is that if Matthews proves to be injury prone in his later years the Leafs can easily get out of it.
You're also not contractually tied into paying him top of the league money for his 31-34 seasons.
And you get him cheaper now too. An 8-year deal would be 15 mill a year.
Quote from: Bender on August 24, 2023, 09:13:10 AMThat's really the only saving grace here, is that if Matthews proves to be injury prone in his later years the Leafs can easily get out of it.
Quote from: Frank E on August 24, 2023, 05:35:33 AMIf you're an elite NHL player, "shorter term" may be the route to max dollars over the span of your career.
If you're willing to forego the security that longer term deals provide, as well as the vanity of a big total number ($100m+), you can put your team over the barrel a few times over your career given you'll be theoretically very employable at each juncture.
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on August 23, 2023, 09:55:04 PMQuote from: Nik on August 23, 2023, 09:45:44 PMQuote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on August 23, 2023, 09:40:56 PMWe'll have had 34 from 18 through 29. I am perfectly content to cross whatever bridge comes after that. Put me down as a very happy camper on this one.
It's a minor point but it's actually 18-30. And, in Matthews' particular case, it's really more like 19-31. The years the Leafs won't have Matthews under contract vs. an 8 year deal are solidly in his 30's.
Unless they sign him to a long deal next time to make him truly a Leaf for life. That will be a much more interesting negotiation (assuming he wants to stay).
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on August 23, 2023, 09:40:56 PMWe'll have had 34 from 18 through 29. I am perfectly content to cross whatever bridge comes after that. Put me down as a very happy camper on this one.
Quote from: Peter D. on August 23, 2023, 08:37:53 PMEasy. Give him more money to secure him for more years. As much as I think this money should be tops to give him on an 8-year deal, if they needed to give him upwards of a million more to get it done, I'd do it.
Quote from: cw on August 23, 2023, 07:15:32 PMIf he held out to become a UFA, I'm pretty sure he would have got more from the winning bid.