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Messages - A Weekend at Bernier's

#1
4:00 minutes left in the third and Cuthbert just said "Marner is out for his second shift on defence".  Marner has been taking shifts on defence since Lagesson got hurt late in the first.
#2
Quote from: Arn on January 16, 2024, 09:40:32 AMI just looked it up actually, was December 2013 so just over 10 years ago!

Leafs third line then was Ashton- D'Amigo - McLaren

McLaren played 5 shifts for 3.22 of ice time.

Phaneuf, Kessel and Kadri were all -2, while Gardiner was +2 in a 5-2 loss.

Bernier was in net.

It's important to remember these things when looking at the current team and realising it's not that bad...

Perspective is everything
#3
Quote from: azzurri63 on January 02, 2024, 10:38:33 PMI think it's too much. Like Willy but his laziness at times and still soft play avoiding contact is hard to watch. He's not the only one. You can't compare him to Pastrnak. David is a better scorer plays harder and doesn't take any crap. If you had to chose 1 for the playoffs most managers would take Pasta so shouldn't be in the same ballpark. Dubas gave him what he wanted and if rumours are true Tre is doing the same. If Marner is gone then Tavares comes off the books maybe this team can retool but if we keep overpaying to the core it's going to be the same shi* repeated year after year. How long before MLSE figures it's not working?

Truthfully, if you talk to die-hard Bruins fans, they describe Pasternak in the same way you talk about Nylander. Doesn't play consistently hard, disappears for stretches, lazy, etc.  Pasternak is probably the better player, or at least has performed to a higher standard to this point, but Nylander is absolutely a comparable.  To say Willie "isn't in the same ballpark" is a real exaggeration.
#4
Penguins "embarrassed" by the Leafs last Saturday, 7-0.  "Quit" on their GM/President.  The "Core" is finished, lacklustre, time to tear it down.  "Off season acquisitions" are garbage.  "Jarry" is done, ship him out.

Then the Pens came back to beat the Wild and Canes this week.

Some may find Guilt Trip is simply drinking the Blue cool-aid.  I think he's one of this site's most reasonable members.  Things blew up last night, bad goal after bad goal and the team played like crap.  This happens to every team at some point along an 82 game season - maybe not this badly, mind you, but it happens.  Every hot streak has to come to an end.  The players will take this as a blip and try to reset.
#5
Quote from: herman on December 17, 2023, 12:20:56 AMI think we can do this
Knies-Matthews-Nylander
Bertuzzi-Tavares-Jarnkrok
Robertson-Domi-Marner
Gregor-Kampf-McMann

Flip the top 3 RWs around as needed. Marner gets lots of extra time on special teams. Maybe making third line crazy dangerous is enough.

I really like this idea, Herman.  Maybe worry a touch about matchups and defending the other team's best layers, but otherwise this would bring waves and waves of offense and pressure.
#6
2023/2024 Leafs Game Day Threads / Re: GDTs Needed
December 14, 2023, 11:02:59 AM
Really appreciate the time you take to put these together, CTB.  It adds a lot to our experience as Leaf fans, thank you.
#7
Quote from: azzurri63 on December 12, 2023, 12:11:11 AM
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on December 12, 2023, 12:04:36 AMI was thinking fatigue was part of the problem in OT.  And then cw pointed it out, and so did MLHS.  While the overall minutes were well-managed, 16 and 34 played hard for the last 2-3 minutes just to get it to OT.

Tavares really dialed it up at the end.  3 straight faceoff wins to give the Leafs repeated chances to tie it.  We may crab about how much cap space he takes up, but he's still elite at what he does best.

I don't buy that. When the puck went into the Leafs end and McCabe went back to get it and thwarted the Isle forward who then went off along with the other Isle forward. Horvat and Brazil came on. Both Marner and Matthews could have went off. Instead they decided to play heroes and it cost them. If they were gassed it sure didn't look like it Marner put his head down and skated back hard. Matthews maybe not so but maybe he figured he'd take the trailer. If you're tired get off. Not the first time they've cost us in OT and at times it has been because they were out there too long. Not tonight.

Sorry, I don't buy it.  Stretch pass from McCabe to Matthews for a 2 on 1 with Marner. If that's not the prime situation you want on a 3-on-3, I don't know what is.  Sorokin makes the initial save and kicks out the rebound, its a 2-on-1 the other way.  Marner absolutely rocketed into his zone on the backcheck, no issues there.  It's 3-on-3 hockey.  Sorokin made the save on the 2-on-1 and Samsonov didn't.

If anything, I would ask why Rielly played Barzal to shoot, everyone in the building knows he's going to look to pass first.  Hey, what can you do, as others mentioned they did well to get the point.  But this whole blame Matthews and Marner for everything thing is getting pretty old.
#8
Pardon me if this has already been posted / discussed....

Counting one's chickens before their hatched and all that, the next year's salary cap is expected to be approximately $88m. 

COINCIDENCE?????

Putting aside planetary alignment, I would think that this should create enough wiggle-room to get Nylander signed.  Plenty of other gaps will still exist, but I'm hopeful that some clarity of future expectation can put this saga to bed soon.
#9
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on November 14, 2023, 02:23:48 PM
Quote from: A Weekend at Bernier's on November 14, 2023, 01:14:24 PMCTB, excellent analysis.  Thank you.

Granted this is very much a best case scenario for the Leafs, and it's possible that Calgary doesn't value saving hard cash that much and prefers an actual sweetener for Klingberg instead. But trades like this have happened before. It's basically a mini Horton for Clarkson type deal.

Just my gut's $0.02, but I would be willing to bet Conroy is going to hold out for the strongest hockey-related return on this deal. Of course, like Bob Dylan says, "you gotta serve somebody", and the top brass will ultimately determine what type of deal is made.  But I'm sure Conroy will want to try to "win" his first big deal as GM, especially if it's with his former boss.
#10
General NHL News & Views / Re: Ex Penguin Adam Johnson
November 14, 2023, 09:30:07 PM
Quote from: Highlander on November 14, 2023, 05:33:16 PMSorry, I haven't seen it and shouldn't have commented the way I did. My bad.  However asking me to believe a murder charge of any sort can be associated with this is hard to imagine. From seeing it do you believe the player had made a deliberate attempt to injure?  or maim? If you go this far indite the UK hockey association for not mandating neck guards until someone died.  Very sad for everyone.

It's just terrible.  I can't fathom that the player intended this outcome and I totally agree with you that everyone associated with this is suffering.  But, in my mind, there's no question that there was recklessness involved.
#11
CTB, excellent analysis.  Thank you.
#12
General NHL News & Views / Re: Ex Penguin Adam Johnson
November 14, 2023, 01:10:25 PM
Quote from: Highlander on November 14, 2023, 12:21:09 PMUtterly stupid.

Not trying to incite anything, but have you seen the video?  Or, at least, what happened to lead to the incident?  Before you develop an opinion, watch the play.  The incident happened in the middle of the ice, as Johnson is cutting at the blueline.  I think it absolutely warrants legal review.
#13
Quote from: A Weekend at Bernier's on October 16, 2023, 02:49:48 PM
Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on October 16, 2023, 09:08:52 AMThat fourth line seems made up.  I mean the 4th line left winger looks like the phonetic spelling of Tkachuk, and the centre seems to be a character from Lord of the Rings.

Who?
Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on October 16, 2023, 03:17:52 PM
Quote from: A Weekend at Bernier's on October 16, 2023, 02:49:48 PM
Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on October 16, 2023, 09:08:52 AMThat fourth line seems made up.  I mean the 4th line left winger looks like the phonetic spelling of Tkachuk, and the centre seems to be a character from Lord of the Rings.

Who?

Katchouk and Entwistle on Chicago.


Sorry, I was trying to make a joke - John Entwistle from The Who.
#14
Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on October 16, 2023, 09:08:52 AMThat fourth line seems made up.  I mean the 4th line left winger looks like the phonetic spelling of Tkachuk, and the centre seems to be a character from Lord of the Rings.

Who?
#15
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2023 Training Camp Thread
October 03, 2023, 11:49:49 AM
Quote from: herman on October 02, 2023, 03:41:13 PMhttps://twitter.com/LeafsPR/status/1708942714778071128
Initial Marlies cuts

Notable not cuts: Minten, Cowan, Robertson, Knies (duh)
Slightly less notable not cuts: Benoit, Gregor, Petruzzelli  (all three playing tonight), Lagesson, Lajoie

Edit: I knew I could count on Kyle
https://twitter.com/kyle_cush/status/1708946573986562072

Spencer Sova has the potential to own one of the great nicknames of all time.  If he makes it, I hereby decree he'll be known as SuperSova.

Or, if the modern hockey nicknaming nomenclature applies, Sovs.