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Michael

I have seen things written to suggest that SportsNet is dropping a lot of other people. All I have heard for sure is Bob and Doug, already mentioned above.

Does anyone have anyone else to add to the list?

Apparently Rogers media division is losing lots of money...

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Quote from: Michael on June 25, 2019, 10:51:00 AM
I have seen things written to suggest that SportsNet is dropping a lot of other people. All I have heard for sure is Bob and Doug, already mentioned above.

Does anyone have anyone else to add to the list?

Apparently Rogers media division is losing lots of money...

Any news about Hosehead the dog?  Anyone???


Nik

Quote from: Michael on June 25, 2019, 10:51:00 AM
I have seen things written to suggest that SportsNet is dropping a lot of other people. All I have heard for sure is Bob and Doug, already mentioned above.

Does anyone have anyone else to add to the list?

It's Steve Simmons so obviously some caution is merited but the next name on the list may very well be Don Cherry:

https://twitter.com/Account4hockey/status/1147627618835030016

And buried within is some confirmation that Rogers is losing a ton of money on their NHL deal.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

Significantly Insignificant

Quote from: Nik the Trik on July 07, 2019, 06:34:19 AM
Quote from: Michael on June 25, 2019, 10:51:00 AM
I have seen things written to suggest that SportsNet is dropping a lot of other people. All I have heard for sure is Bob and Doug, already mentioned above.

Does anyone have anyone else to add to the list?

It's Steve Simmons so obviously some caution is merited but the next name on the list may very well be Don Cherry:

https://twitter.com/Account4hockey/status/1147627618835030016

And buried within is some confirmation that Rogers is losing a ton of money on their NHL deal.

Well that is probably not good for the cap.  Would it make sense for the NHL to sell off the national rights in pieces to TSN and SN, or does it only make sense to sell them as a complete package?
"We can't change what's done, we can only move on." - Arthur Morgan

Rob

Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on July 07, 2019, 04:36:28 PM
Quote from: Nik the Trik on July 07, 2019, 06:34:19 AM
Quote from: Michael on June 25, 2019, 10:51:00 AM
I have seen things written to suggest that SportsNet is dropping a lot of other people. All I have heard for sure is Bob and Doug, already mentioned above.

Does anyone have anyone else to add to the list?

It's Steve Simmons so obviously some caution is merited but the next name on the list may very well be Don Cherry:

https://twitter.com/Account4hockey/status/1147627618835030016

And buried within is some confirmation that Rogers is losing a ton of money on their NHL deal.

Well that is probably not good for the cap.  Would it make sense for the NHL to sell off the national rights in pieces to TSN and SN, or does it only make sense to sell them as a complete package?

The $5.2 billion deal is already accounted for in the cap.  It's a twelve year deal so that won't change until 2026.

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Maybe their ratings/profits might get a jolt if they quit featuring a guy whose main appeal is to a demographic that is literally dying out.

Nik

Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on July 07, 2019, 05:42:30 PM
Maybe their ratings/profits might get a jolt if they quit featuring a guy whose main appeal is to a demographic that is literally dying out.

Honestly, I feel like that's giving Cherry too much importance. Ratings suck because the game is too local, there aren't really standout teams and the league has more or less maxed out their Canadian audience. None of the people I know who don't watch hockey are going to be won over by a really dynamic intermission show.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Quote from: Nik the Trik on July 07, 2019, 06:17:27 PM
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on July 07, 2019, 05:42:30 PM
Maybe their ratings/profits might get a jolt if they quit featuring a guy whose main appeal is to a demographic that is literally dying out.

Honestly, I feel like that's giving Cherry too much importance. Ratings suck because the game is too local, there aren't really standout teams and the league has more or less maxed out their Canadian audience. None of the people I know who don't watch hockey are going to be won over by a really dynamic intermission show.

Yeah, you're right.  It's a niche sport and the niche is full.

Nik


There's another reality though and I think my Father is a good example of it. He's a pretty big sports fan but he's also recently retired and decided to cut back on a few things. Despite that he pays for MLB.tv which is about 130 bucks a year to stream every single Baseball game. Come the Fall he may give DAZN 20 bucks a month to watch every single football game.

Just to watch the Leafs you either need a cable package from Bell or Rogers that includes all of the sports channels or you need to subscribe to both the TSN and Sportsnet streaming services. Either way that works out to something like 60+ bucks a month. Hockey's great and obviously I'm too far gone to give up the Leafs but following this one team now costs roughly three times as much as the entirety of Major League Baseball or the NFL for Canadian fans.

So it's not just a niche, it's a league that seems intent on squeezing that niche to death.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Quote from: Nik the Trik on July 07, 2019, 07:05:45 PM

There's another reality though and I think my Father is a good example of it. He's a pretty big sports fan but he's also recently retired and decided to cut back on a few things. Despite that he pays for MLB.tv which is about 130 bucks a year to stream every single Baseball game. Come the Fall he may give DAZN 20 bucks a month to watch every single football game.

Just to watch the Leafs you either need a cable package from Bell or Rogers that includes all of the sports channels or you need to subscribe to both the TSN and Sportsnet streaming services. Either way that works out to something like 60+ bucks a month. Hockey's great and obviously I'm too far gone to give up the Leafs but following this one team now costs roughly three times as much as the entirety of Major League Baseball or the NFL for Canadian fans.

So it's not just a niche, it's a league that seems intent on squeezing that niche to death.

We may disagree on many things, Nik, but we are Siamese Twins when to comes to our opinion of the intelligence of the NHL's leadership.

Nik

Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on July 07, 2019, 07:11:22 PM
We may disagree on many things, Nik, but we are Siamese Twins when to comes to our opinion of the intelligence of the NHL's leadership.

It's an interesting thing of who's to blame there. My instinct is to put it on Bell/Rogers as opposed to the league itself(although I appreciate that as Leafs ownership the distinction there is minimal) but there's no question that the league is ceding power to TV folk because they're so hooked on that money.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi



Zee

I'm not a Simmons defender by any means, in fact i can't stand the guy, but he didn't actually say Cherry was fired.  He basically said they hadn't officially renewed coaches corner and because Cherry makes alot they might consider not bringing him back given the other cuts Rogers has been making (I.e. McCowan and McLean)