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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Official TV Thread
February 02, 2023, 09:27:07 AM
Quote from: Bill33 on February 01, 2023, 09:53:57 PM
Quote from: L K on January 31, 2023, 07:12:12 PMIn a contrast to all of the hockey stuff, what a great episode of TV with the Last of Us

Totally agree. Ep 3 was incredibly well done. I had no idea the series was going to be this good.

Check out HBO's Chernobyl too if you haven't already. HBO paired the guy behind that show (Craig Mazin) with the lead developer of the TLOU games (Neil Druckmann) to create/write this series.

One of the reasons I had sky-high expectations of this show (aside from just loving the games themselves) was having both of those guys in charge.
NHL Transactions / Re: Horvat to NYI
February 01, 2023, 12:57:35 PM
Quote from: iwas11in67 on February 01, 2023, 11:48:12 AMThanks CTB. I read else where that the closest comparitive was Kerfoot and Niemia(SP)

I was maybe a little hype focused on thinking about a forward so yeah Niemela is probably closer in terms of overall value. Kerfoot really isn't a fair comparison since he's 3 years older and of course a pending UFA. They are similar in that they're both decent middle-6 options right now but Vancouver is likely hoping that Beauvillier still has a chance to blossom a little more offensively in a non-Islanders environment while with Kerfoot what you see is what you get at this point.
I thought Boston was coming off 1 loss but they've actually lost 3 straight games now. They went 0-2-1 against Tampa, Florida, and Carolina. First time all season they've lost consecutive games.

edit: Boston lost 3 straight games to end the month but they still finished with the 2nd most points in January behind... the Seattle Kraken??
Boston Bruins
38-7-5, 81 points
Toronto Maple Leafs
31-12-8, 70 points






Vinni Lettieri
Jakub Zboril
Jordie Benn
Conor Timmins
Matt Murray

•Jake DeBrusk - Lower Body - Injured Reserve
•Tomas Nosek - Foot - Injured Reserve
•Vinni Lettieri - Lower Body - Questionable
•Victor Mete - Lower Body - Injured Reserve
•Jake Muzzin - Neck - Injured Reserve
•Auston Matthews - Knee - Injured Reserve
•Nick Robertson - Shoulder - Injured Reserve
•Matt Murray - Ankle - Questionable

Game notes
•Linus Ullmark (25-4-1, 1.90 GAA, .936 Sv%) will likely start for the Bruins

•Ilya Samsonov (17-5-2, 2.31 GAA, .917 Sv%) will start for the Maple Leafs

NHL Transactions / Re: Horvat to NYI
January 31, 2023, 06:33:55 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on January 31, 2023, 05:01:19 PMFor smaller deals, absolutely, but for larger deals where they're negotiating with multiple teams (which, from the sounds of things, they were), I have to believe teams typically give the other suitors an opportunity to up their offer if they're close in value to the one they like. Unless the Nucks were really targeting Raty, I don't see any reason they wouldn't have gone to the other teams to say "we're close with another team, this is what they're offering (without naming names). What's your best offer?" If they're in serious negotiations with teams, they should have already done their scouting work. It's not like they'd be starting from scratch.

See I still think it's the other way around. For smaller deals that usually come about through the course of a few texts or e-mails it's easier to bounce offers around multiple deals until someone offers a high enough or multiple draft picks for a GM to pull the trigger.

But big deals like this happen a lot more organically and over multiple days or weeks or even months. If yesterday at the beginning of one of the many, many talks the two had regarding this deal Allvin set this return as his price and after 60 minutes of back and forth Lou eventually decided to meet his demand Allvin can't then just turn around and go "sweet can I put you on hold for 30 minutes while I face time Boston's GM". I'd imagine everyone around the league would agree that that kinda goes against the GM bro-code.

So if a GM out there is upset and thought that he could have beat this offer, instead of leaking that information he should have been more aggressive in his pursuit and not think he could sit on his best offer until 10 minutes prior to the deadline.
NHL Transactions / Re: Horvat to NYI
January 31, 2023, 04:57:08 PM
Quote from: iwas11in67 on January 31, 2023, 04:15:30 PMI'm not too familiar with Anthony Beauvillier, Aatu Raty. What would the Leaf equivalent be?

Leafs don't really have a comparable for Beauvillier. He's a 25-year old former 28th overall pick who's kinda gone up and down in his career as a middle-6 winger. At this point it's arguable that he's not even really earning his $4.15mil AAV. He's almost an older and more expensive version of Kapanen when the Leafs dealt him away.

Raty was picked 52nd overall in 2021 but many thought he'd go in the 1st round. His progression as a prospect seems to be going fine but the ceiling there isn't exactly high. Some potential as a 2nd line guy but more realistically he's a 3C if all goes well. So probably Roni Hirvonen-ish (picked 59th overall '20) with less pre-draft hype.
NHL Transactions / Re: Horvat to NYI
January 31, 2023, 02:33:52 PM
Honestly I do feel like that's kind of how deals generally go down. I think the idea that GM's go back and forth with multiple teams "shopping" deals and saying stuff like "this is what Team A is offering can you beat that" doesn't really happen.
NHL Transactions / Re: Horvat to NYI
January 31, 2023, 09:11:36 AM
Quote from: herman on January 31, 2023, 02:03:59 AM-___-

Since that statement's just made up anyway he should have said it's like they got 6 first rounders in return.
NHL Transactions / Re: Horvat to NYI
January 31, 2023, 09:04:49 AM
Quote from: Zee on January 31, 2023, 08:26:23 AMIf the Islanders continue to flounder and aren't in a playoff spot by the deadline, any chance Lou does a shrewd move and trades Horvat for more than he gave up?

Flipping him at a $2mil cap hit for a bigger return would be pretty shrewd, so I doubt it happens.
NHL Transactions / Re: Horvat to NYI
January 30, 2023, 10:23:10 PM
Well I'm glad he didn't go to Boston. At least not yet I guess.
Once a month Engvall just decides to be the best player on the ice.
General NHL News & Views / Re: 2022-23 NHL Thread
January 29, 2023, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: herman on January 29, 2023, 06:54:27 AMThis reads like a hostage video script.

The best part is how his agent obviously wrote every word.