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Messages - Bill_Berg

#1
My thoughts on Marner is really only dump him if it is specifically to address those other needs, a starting goalie and/or a top defenseman. If they can't do that this year with Marner's money, do it the year after with Tavares'.
#2
Quote from: herman on May 22, 2024, 01:25:04 PMI don't think staying close to Toronto is a priority for Marner, so Buffalo probably isn't a destination he'd have in mind.

A west coast or Sun Belt city with limited or no income taxation, where people don't know you're a hockey player on the street might appeal if he's laying down his godhood.
No income tax: Nashville, Seattle, Las Vegas, Florida/Tampa, Dallas
Low income tax: Colorado, Utah, St. Louis

Cross-reference with which teams are approaching a contention threshold, have a couple of good prospects on the cusp, while the team needs more assists, and has cap space: Nashville, Utah, Seattle?

A sign and trade after July 1 would set him and the recipient team up nicely: 1 775k year + 8 years doesn't change the cap hit, but will show up more palatably on their payroll ledger.

The more I think about a trade that is realistic and doesn't suck for us, the more I suspect Marner will be gone in free agency next year.
#3
I doubt they only started the process after they fired Keefe. But mostly, Berube was probably ready to sign, so the Leafs had to grab him or lose him. Due diligence can sometimes be the cause of missed opportunities.
#5
Well no one saw this coming. Maybe we can trade him for Gilmour in a couple years.
#6
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on May 15, 2024, 04:05:17 PM
Quote from: Bill_Berg on May 15, 2024, 03:54:36 PMI'm not sure straight up for Saros is the best they can do, but Herman's proposal seems like more than Nashville would pay too.

It's worth pointing out that it's not quite Marner for Saros straight up. It's more like Marner for Saros + $6mil in cap space for next season. That type of additional cap space could change the scope of our free agent targets from a guy like Alexandre Carrier to Brandon Montour.

Yeah the space is valuable no doubt, but does another team get to give up less because of that? I just feel like they could get more than just Saros. Or at least would like to think that.
#7
I'm not sure straight up for Saros is the best they can do, but Herman's proposal seems like more than Nashville would pay too.

I am down with a stable goalie. They may all be voodoo, but there are the type that are 75/25 good to bad and then some (Samsonov) that are 25/75. Lets get some good voodoo around here!
#8
Toronto Blue Jays / Re: 2024 Blue Jays
May 12, 2024, 03:36:26 PM
Quote from: Arn on May 12, 2024, 03:20:13 PM
Quote from: Arn on May 11, 2024, 05:18:25 PMMaybe that's the game that turns it round.

Maybe not.

But on the plus side, maybe Manoha is the next Gausman.
#9
Toronto Blue Jays / Re: 2024 Blue Jays
May 11, 2024, 03:42:55 PM
Gausman is this year's Manoha.
#10
Quote from: RedLeaf on May 11, 2024, 09:29:03 AM
Quote from: Bill_Berg on May 11, 2024, 09:17:42 AMBoo, none of these names have amusing qualities to them. I'll just trust the Leaf scouts this year.

I dunno... Den Banford has a bit of a ring to it. :)
Quote from: Rob on May 11, 2024, 09:23:52 AM
Quote from: Bill_Berg on May 11, 2024, 09:17:42 AMBoo, none of these names have amusing qualities to them. I'll just trust the Leaf scouts this year.

Henry Mews is a little aMEWSing.



Meh, they are no Daniil But or Quentin Musty.
#11
Boo, none of these names have amusing qualities to them. I'll just trust the Leaf scouts this year.
#12
Quote from: herman on May 10, 2024, 12:17:25 PM
Quote from: herman on May 10, 2024, 10:33:44 AM


As always, MLHS with the goods transcribing the whole affair, which you'll probably need because MLSE could not afford a decent audio set up.

Pelley | "Good is not good enough". "The recipe for success is skill, chemistry, and unity"
Shanahan | "There is a time for preaching patience, and there is a time when you have to examine the patterns that persist... Everything will be on the table"
Treliving | "Everybody has to feel important"

Shannahan is saying at the end, in my mind, they're way more open to breaking up the core 4 (or 5) than they have been in the past. Like that door is open for the first time.
#13
I'm not sold on Berube. I'm actually more inclined to want Mclellan, but that may just be due to my PP PTSD.
#14
Quote from: Joe on May 09, 2024, 07:48:36 AMWhy is it that I'm seeing next to nothing about 'playoff' Bertuzzi and his 5.5 mil? All season I kept reading that he was brought in for the playoffs, just wait for the playoffs. But Marner needs to be shot out of a canon.

Far less emotional investment in Bertuzzi.
#15
Quote from: cw on May 08, 2024, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: Bill_Berg on May 08, 2024, 09:38:31 AM
Quote from: Guilt Trip on May 08, 2024, 09:24:24 AM
Quote from: Bill_Berg on May 08, 2024, 09:08:48 AMThe only problem is the obvious choice of the 5 to go, can't go until 2025. So do they 'burn' another year by trying to tinker again with UFAs, or has the patience run out? And if patience has run out, will it lead to a bad decision (trade Marner for nothing).
They can't do anything with those contracts except ask if they'll waive and then if one agrees to go, he has the choice of destination. Chances are they're riding this out for another year until JT comes off the 11M.

Yeah, that seems most likely. But there is going to be a lot of animosity about them running it back again. Even if this time they're kinda forced.

It is most likely.
One of the core members, Tavares, is going at the end of next season whether that is by his physical departure or a serious reduction in his contract.
If Marner gets dumped and Tavares is also gone in July 2025, now you are short one elite talent more than you probably wanted with no one in the NHL willing to give one away.
Patience may be a virtue. Standing up for Marner might be a smart thing to do.

In the interim, they can retool with ~$19M in cap space to return themselves to contender status if they can stabilize the goaltending (maybe a big IF there). But right now, there are a few UFAs who might fill in some voids to make that plausible.

Cooler heads will probably take this path, but this path probably leads to a repeat of the season we just saw.