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I'm not sure why Shanahan needed to be at this press conference.   This is the 3rd head coach under his unsuccessful tenure.  Maybe he shouldn't be at all of these things. 

I liked a lot of what I heard but it doesn't matter much unless the team plays up to that standard.   I doubt Keefe was telling the team to lose puck battles and not try to score.
Toronto Blue Jays / Re: 2024 Blue Jays
May 20, 2024, 08:30:20 AM
Its too bad that Manoah isn't a position player.  The rotation has, for the most part, not been the problem this year.  It's great to see Manoah regain his form though.  What a massive drop off it was last year.

Nice offensive output today from the offense.  The home run power is still a big concern but they did get a couple today against a good pitcher.
This series hasn't been the greatest.

Dallas got hosed in overtime.  Series winning goal scored but called off because Makar pushed the Dallas player into his own goalie.
Quote from: princedpw on May 17, 2024, 07:15:32 PM
Quote from: Highlander on May 17, 2024, 04:11:56 PMthe more I read about him, the more I like the pick. Holds players accountable and that is exaclty what a few of these guys need. I wonder how much player input he will have on acquisitions etc with Treviling?

Ok. I need to know what "holding players accountable" means and how that helps the leafs win a game 7.  Like specifically, what does a coach holding players accountable do and why does it make Samsonov save 1 extra goal or Marner score an extra goal?


To me, it looks like the Leafs want to win. And they have played well in many high pressure situations. They haven't won a game 7. But is the pressure really noticeably higher in that game 7 than game 5 or 6 that have to win?

I think a fairer argument for the team is that they struggle to close games out rather than play in high pressure situations.

2018 - win Game 6 to tie it 3-3 lose 7-4 in Game 7
2019 - win Game 5 to go up 3-2 and lose Game 6 4-2 and Game 7 5-1
2020 - win Game 4 to tie it 2-2 then lose Game 5 3-0
2021 - win game 4 to go up 3-1 and lose Game 5, Game 6, Game 7
2022 - win Game 5 to go up 3-2 then lose Game 6 and Game 7
2023 - win Game 4 to go up 3-1 then lose Game 5 and win Game 6; Win Game 4 to go 3-1 then lose Game 5
2024 - win Games 5/6 to tie it up 3-3 then lose Game 7

When the Leafs are facing potential elimination they are 4-9 since 2018
When the Leafs opponents are facing elimination they are 1-11

The Leafs can't put teams away when their opponent is up against the wall. 
Not surprising.  Of the available options he seems fine.  He's a tougher coach than Keefe so that will change how the dressing room is handled but yelling isn't going to turn Morgan Rielly into Pietrangelo.

I think roster changes are going to have a bigger impact on the team than the coach.  I'm glad they made a decision earlier though so we can hopefully have Berube meet with players sooner  in the offseason to set goals for training camp.

Just adding to the list of people putting the "it's close" down on paper list
The Canes powerplay sucks, their goaltending gives up softies at crucial moments and they don't advance as far as they should.

Brindamour coaches a team that is more successful than the Leafs but also hasn't had to play the Atlantic division in the first round year over year.

18-19 - swept in the conference finals by Boston (4-0)
19-20 - lost in the first round to Boston (4-1)
20-21 - lost in the 2nd round to Tampa (4-1)
21-22 - beat Boston in the first round (4-3) ***the weird lockout division season
22-23 - swept in the conference finals by Florida (4-0)
23-24 - N/A

They are 5-20 against the Atlantic division over the last 6 seasons.

Quote from: bustaheims on May 16, 2024, 08:49:27 AM
Quote from: Frank E on May 15, 2024, 05:55:12 PMI like the idea of getting some cheap bluey chip prospects that are already contributing, with a solid goalie, and looking at 24-25 as a reset of sorts? 

And if it all goes well, load up a little at the deadline, and if not, offload. 

And another thing...I'm not sold with Rielly as your horse on the blueline.

And another thing...if Bert and Domi want to come back, are we good with that?

Domi showed some strong chemistry with Matthews. I'd like to have him back.

The Bertuzzi that showed up for the last couple months of the season? I'd have him back in a heartbeat. The full package? I'd be open to it, if he's willing to sign for less than he earned this past season. He fit pretty well with Matthews and Domi in the end. If he goes, though, what did provide shouldn't be that difficult to replace.

I didn't really see playoff Bertuzzi doing all that much.  He got into scuffles with Marchand but I wanted to see more production from him. I'd bring him back, but I don't think he's a 5M player.
I still think the biggest impact on the team is the lack of internal growth.  Too many draft picks/prospects traded for rentals rather than looking for longer-term assets. 

I think there are only 9 players still in the organization who have played in the NHL since the 2015 draft:
Marner, Matthews, Nylander, Liljegren, Woll, Abruzzese, Robertson, Minten, Holmberg

Abruzzese probably doesn't play with the Leafs moving forward, Robertson had a good offensive season and should hopefully continue to build his role, Holmberg finally established himself this year.  Liljegren has perpetually been on the outs with Keefe.

We dont' have the cap space to fill in quality depth but then are also cheating ourselves but not internally developing depth.  Trading Marner is an opportunity to recoup some depth assets while also freeing up cap space to fill holes.
I'm not against moving Tavares but one year of cap relief if we are eating a chunk of his salary to trade him...we better have a clear plan for what happens with that money.  He's not an 11M player but he is still a guy who puts up 29G and 65P last year.  He also had 16 goals and 30 points in 33 games after the all-star break.   

What are we using that money for in this offseason to upgrade the team more than what Tavares provides?

The bigger argument for trading Marner is that he won't be cheaper after next year.  So while he's an incredible talent, if you want to change the makeup of the team, he's a big salary that will be cleared out (whether by trade this year or he refuses to waive and we lose him for nothing next year).  Tavares comes off the books but if you want him back you can potentially sign him to a more cap reasonable contract next year (or even this year if you really want to go into contract extension plans).  Marner also should provide a meaningful return whereas I think Tavares will carry some value but the number of teams that will be able to absorb his contract and also be a team he would agree to play for isn't going to be high.
Florida is overall wiping the floor with Boston but holy hell does Florida get away with murder
What's happening right now is Florida wiping the floor with Boston.  We are so far away from being a real contender.
I don't buy that Brindamour would come here if he does get let go but honestly his coaching record is every bit as eyebrow raising

104 teams have made the playoffs over the 6 years Brindamour has been coach (it includes those silly play in teams).  His best powerplay ranks 50th.

He's advanced to the conference finals twice but got swept both times.   His quotes last year after getting swept were very much, we won the series on paper and he was making similar statements after going down 3-0 to New York last night.  He also seems like a guy who hates the media

Berube hasn't really done anything outside of his miracle run with the Blues. 

I don't know who the right choice is to coach the team moving forward but I don't think there is an ideal candidate anywhere
More accountability talk from the organization keeping the guy with a track record of zero management success.  I was the star player on my baseball team when I was 10.  I guess that makes me a proven winner too.   

Pellet didn't come across great in this conference either.  Treliving was the best speaker there for me and the jury will be out in him this off-season
I don't think it's wrong for Matthews to not be a Hart finalist because all three players that did get nominated had phenomenal years but it seems bizarre that a guy who put up 69 goals AND was a Selke finalist isn't considered one of the three best players in the league.