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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Reilly To The Wing
June 12, 2024, 11:07:41 AM
My point, again, is that I don't think Rielly is a good candidate but I don't think it's a categorically stupid idea either.  If Marner can play a little D, then I don't think it's impossible *on the face of things* that someone as skilled as Rielly to switch to wing.

Anyway, this is just idle offseason talk, no harm in that.
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Reilly To The Wing
June 11, 2024, 10:44:16 PM
Everybody laughs at these ideas (and Kaberle really would have been the ideal guinea pig), but when you've bombed out 8 years in a row in the playoffs I don't think anything should be ruled out of tabletop scenario planning.

That said, Rielly doesn't strike me as a guy who could do that.
MLHS has some decent recaps of Matthews & Nylander's seasons.  No revelations: Both are gamebreakers, Matthews needs to bring it in the playoffs, that's all he has left to prove, and Nylander still cheats for offense.
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2024 Draft Discussion
June 10, 2024, 04:02:10 PM
If you are saying Broissant follows Infowars then he's 100x worse than Bertuzzi, who was merely reprehensible.  Following Alex Jones is disqualifying, period.
Quote from: herman on June 09, 2024, 11:08:02 AMDeclarations aren't really persuasive arguments. We should also note that we've really only seen Marner in a playstyle that was literally designed to be give Marner the puck. However good Marner plays, I think it's self-evident it does not match up with his expected asking price and barely even matches his current cap hit.

cw had the stats but I believe Marner has better numbers overall than Nylander, yes?  Including playoffs.  Maybe I'm wrong about that but if not he deserves to make more than Nylander.

In any event, no, it is not self-evident.  That declaration isn't persuasive.
Losing Marner will not make us a better team.  I hope he can get past all this BS and re-sign.
God, those names are awful. 
Thank you, cw.  Totally agree.

But nonetheless we can look forward to months of 10-cent pop psychologizing, hot-mic hot-takes, endless nattering about Marner's "camp" (whatever that means), advance-stat contrarianism, and a whole bunch of stupid ideas to give away / drive away an elite player.

Could not possibly care less.  Well, maybe I could.
Any reactions to MLHS's "who stays and who goes" articles?
Quote from: IJustLurkHere on May 30, 2024, 03:11:10 AM
Quote from: bustaheims on May 29, 2024, 06:27:59 AMThe last 3 games against Boston, the Leafs looked like they might be closer to being a contender than they looked most of the year.  Not quite there, but not super far off. Other than that, they definitely looked more like also-rans than anything rise.

A version of the Leafs as committed to team defence as they were from games 5-7 and where the special teams contributed would be an interesting team to watch.

And if they had a healthy Woll in net for G7...
Quote from: herman on May 30, 2024, 08:56:13 AMhttps://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/defence-first-defining-leafs-needs/
This is going to be an interesting series of articles, I think.

What she said about Liljegren rings true, sadly.
This is all very interesting conversation.  To me, it boils down to: it's hard as hell to get elite talent.  You do everything you can to keep it because you almost surely aren't going to instantly replace.  If you accept that, #1 on the list of things you can do is change the coaching if things aren't working.  The Leafs pulled the trigger on that.  I think it's crazy not to give Berube a chance to see if he can get a Marner-inclusive team to perform better in the playoffs — everyone, not just Marner.

I think that's exactly what will happen.  Unless Marner decides he can't stand Berube and wants out now, which I suppose is always possible.
Quote from: archie holdsworth on May 26, 2024, 04:16:04 PM
Quote from: RedLeaf on May 26, 2024, 02:53:15 PMI wish some members of the media would stop harping on about Marner being the problem for the Leafs not having more playoff success.

Marner is not the problem.

In fact, I would wager he will move onto another team find amazing playoff success and prove this BS theory completely false.

The problem with Maple Leafs is structure, too top heavy and not enough players that can or are willing to play good defensive hockey (Marner is not poor defensively, as proven with his utility on the penalty kill).

It will be regrettable if Marner is the player that is forced out the door in order to fix this teams flaws, but the most regrettable issue is how some of the media are berating him and placing the blame squarely on him .

The guy is one of the very best offensive players in the league and one of the best Leafs of all time. I just hope trading him or letting him walk doesn't come back and bite this team in the ass like it has with a few other ex-Leafs in recent years.

I'm on the same page as you and others who aren't looking to run Marner out of town.

I can't say that the Leafs should keep Marner no matter what. If a value for value trade came up that made lots of sense for the Leafs and for Marner, then sure, you would at least look at it. But this idea of shoving Marner out the door, just because? It's not a good idea.

The Leafs have enough cap space to fix some of their problems. They should address finding a top pairing defenseman. They need at least a 1A goaltender. All the issues that need fixing aren't going to be accomplished in one off-season.

After next season, the Tavares contract will be off the books or re-negotiated. The cap will probably take a much bigger jump. There should be room for further changes. I know Matthews is only signed for 4 more years, but that's a problem for down the road. Remember when he was apparently going to Phoenix for sure? If he likes how the team is developing, he's probably going to stick around.

The Leafs should be looking at re-signing Marner. There will be a salary bump. Leafs fans shouldn't fly off the handle when he gets that.

Good posts, and I agree.