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#1
The defensive zone is a disaster which is leading to the shot totals. As great as it is to say "the shots are from the outside", they are only from the outside because Toronto's entire defensive structure this year is to collapse into the House. There was one play last night where the 5 Leafs players were below the hashmarks and in perfect formation. It looked like they were getting ready to take the face off right at the top of the crease.

Yes, having their top 3 Dmen out hurts big time. But there was signs of this type of "crowd the net" attitude right from the start of the season and that concerns me. it's not sustainable. Any shot that gets through creates a rebound and any rebound that gets out of the scrum causes a scoring chance.
#3
Quote from: wnc096 on November 28, 2022, 06:41:50 PM
Quote from: L K on November 28, 2022, 05:56:08 PMJust using existing players on the team for example.


Nylander was a considerably better prospect than Robertson.  I really struggle to see where Nick is "too good" for the AHL when Nylander was put in a position to play 75G in the AHL competing for a team with less depth.



They were activley tanking that year....theres a reason he didn't play behind the likes of Byron Froese, Shawn Matthias, and collin greening

Babcock had him in 2015/2016. I always remember Babcock being a big proponent of players developing in the minors. Was Carlyle of a similar mindset as well?
#4
Quote from: herman on November 28, 2022, 12:25:08 PM
Quote from: OldTimeHockey on November 28, 2022, 11:26:28 AMIt's tough taking Detroit seriously despite their place in the standings. I realize that they need to be, but they've been bad for so long, it's hard to flip the switch. Hopefully the Leafs can.

Their place in the standings is fueled by their schedule. The only good team they've faced is New Jersey twice and Boston once. Come to think of it, New Jersey has also had a favourable schedule (not to take anything away from how they've played, which is relentless and fast and fun and mostly effective) facing only the Leafs twice and a hungover and injured Colorado once.
Quote from: herman on November 28, 2022, 12:25:08 PM
Quote from: OldTimeHockey on November 28, 2022, 11:26:28 AMIt's tough taking Detroit seriously despite their place in the standings. I realize that they need to be, but they've been bad for so long, it's hard to flip the switch. Hopefully the Leafs can.

Their place in the standings is fueled by their schedule. The only good team they've faced is New Jersey twice and Boston once. Come to think of it, New Jersey has also had a favourable schedule (not to take anything away from how they've played, which is relentless and fast and fun and mostly effective) facing only the Leafs twice and a hungover and injured Colorado once.

Yeah I get all that. But, they're winning games this year that they weren't in previous years. New Jersey as well.
#5
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on November 28, 2022, 12:49:23 PMhttps://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1597265624039796736

I understand some of the arguments for keeping Robertson on the NHL roster, even if he isn't playing. And for say a typical 21-year old prospect like him they might make a little more sense.

Robertson though, for various reasons, has played a grand total of 78 professional hockey games since the 2020/21 season. He hasn't played more than 38 games in his first or second professional season. And if things keep up that'll likely be 3 straight seasons below that number.

I just don't see how that's beneficial. If the coaches on the Marlies are throwing their hands in the air and saying "we can't do anything with him anymore" then that's more of an issue with them.

I agree with you 100%. It would make more sense to have a journeyman play the sporadic games for two reasons.
1. He's use to the yo-yo and if he's still doing it, he's adjusted. Constantly going in and out has to be tough on Robertson.
2. Robertson needs ice time and puck touches. He's get neither here.
#6
That's a great name.


It's tough taking Detroit seriously despite their place in the standings. I realize that they need to be, but they've been bad for so long, it's hard to flip the switch. Hopefully the Leafs can.
#7
General NHL News & Views / Re: 2022-23 NHL Thread
November 27, 2022, 11:31:11 AM
If I remember correctly, they tried banking a couple off Murray in the last game as well.
#8
Quote from: herman on November 26, 2022, 11:21:12 PMhttps://twitter.com/dalter/status/1596704118822805506
So I double checked my offseason hype for Holmberg. I was mentally pencilling him in for Johnsson-like duty as a utility forechecking/defensive winger in the middle six to ease him into the league.

I underestimated the Leafs' need for a centre (Evan Rodrigues right there back then), and underestimated Holmberg's adjustment to NHL ice. He's a mini Kampf. Let him run free with Robertson and Malgin.

I think Holmberg offers more offensive ability than Kampf actually.
#10
Quote from: herman on November 25, 2022, 07:49:40 PMI dig how much of an unabashed fan Russo is of the team he covers.

https://twitter.com/russohockey/status/1596254952858550279

A goalie is always taught to hit the posts hard when sliding...and if you feel it coming off, you follow through. So, it's not that Murray did it on purpose, but he also didn't attempt to prevent it from happening.

That said, next game he plays, if the net comes off, I'm willing to bet they call a penalty on him.
#12
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Rielly placed on LTIR
November 22, 2022, 03:35:48 PM
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 22, 2022, 03:33:55 PMThere's some silver lining here: finally finally finally 37 & 38 get top[ 4 minutes, no questions asked.  Let's watch them grow (hopefully).

And not to belittle Rielly too much, but he hasn't scored a goal this season even with prime PP1 time.  I'll make a bold prediction: if they let Sandin or Liljegren QB PP1, they'll score a goal within 3 games.

I think you're undervaluing Rielly by quite a bit. I'll make a bold prediction: Rielly's loss will hurt the defence of this team more than the previous two that went down.
#13
Tying goal was all on Kallgren, but that 3rd goal sure looks to me like it tipped off Holl's stick. Hard to make that save if it did.

My OT take and why it isn't working is that they're standing still. It's almost reminiscent of when the powerplay struggles. They're trying to make their sticks do all the work. If the other team is skating, it's not going to work. Watch Nylander on that giveaway. He stops and then passively throws the puck back. Why? What is the thought there? On the goal against, I have no real issue with how they played it. Everyone has a man. Only slight issue I can see is Holl gives up a little too much gap entering the zone which allows the crossing pattern that essentially allows the Isles player to walk into the upper house. But that's nitpicking.
#14
Quote from: Guilt Trip on November 18, 2022, 10:43:36 AM
Quote from: OldTimeHockey on November 18, 2022, 08:38:27 AMThe repeated giveaways in this game is very concerning. I'm not sure if it's been ongoing this year as I haven't been watching for them but I counted 5 on one shift in the 3rd. Not going to win many games like that.
They're the worst team in the league for giveaways this season. They need to clean that part of the game up.
https://twitter.com/lukefoxjukebox/status/1593451738698235905

Well there you go.

I feel like it's a result of them playing very nonchalant and always trying to feather in the perfect play. Sometimes at the worst spots on the ice (See Tavares in OT).
#15
The repeated giveaways in this game is very concerning. I'm not sure if it's been ongoing this year as I haven't been watching for them but I counted 5 on one shift in the 3rd. Not going to win many games like that.