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Re: 2021-2022 Official Toronto Raptors Thread
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2021, 09:44:13 PM »

It's a good win but I don't think it's a great night for people already looking to declare Masai a genius for the Barnes pick. I think he was good but showed how he can be limited offensively. He was a team worst -13 and seemed a bit lost out there at times.
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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2021, 02:31:39 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2021, 02:41:35 PM »

Yeah, I know. I hate being the guy who's still a doubter but...I just feel like I'm not seeing a ton of reason to think there's a ceiling there that's crazy high.
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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2021, 12:06:43 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2022, 11:50:24 AM »

Sort of feels these days like being a Raptors fan is the experience of being told by other fans of the team that Masai is a brilliant deal maker who never puts a foot wrong, Nick Nurse is one of the best coaches in the league, Fred and Pascal are All-Stars, OG is an elite 3 and D wing and Scottie has established himself as a future superstar and then the team kind of sucks most nights. 
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Re: 2021-2022 Official Toronto Raptors Thread
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2022, 02:16:08 PM »
I get it.  Every win against a good team is proof they are legitimate and every 3-4 game losing streak is because they are young.

The reality is this is a very shallow team with a bench that sucks and not enough guys who can score consistently.

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« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2022, 02:32:32 PM »
I think what has happened is that the world championship win has caused this affect where hop is being sold on Ujiri and Nurse's behalf so everything is being viewed through a positive lens.  That goodwill will get burnt through though of the results don't meet expectations in a couple of years.
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Re: 2021-2022 Official Toronto Raptors Thread
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2022, 04:13:14 PM »
We definitely don't have a bad organization with Nurse and Ujiri.

But aside from the Kawhi trade (that I think if you look at the context of Derozan previously being assured he wouldn't get traded and then having it happen anyway doesn't necessarily highlight the same Ujiri is a great man narrative) his biggest move with the Raptors was the Knicks stupidly turning down a trade for Kyle Lowry.

They turned down a package of Raymond Felton, Metta World Peace and one of Iman Shumpert/Tim Hardaway Jr/2018 first round pick.