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Ranking Prospects 2020-2021

Started by herman, June 16, 2020, 11:12:02 AM

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CarltonTheBear


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He will be a real boon to the Marlies next year. Hopefully he has the stuff to make it to the big team, he seems very talented.
"In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few"
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Bender

"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

Heroic Shrimp

Quote from: Bender on June 07, 2021, 11:08:56 PM
Quote from: Heroic Shrimp on May 09, 2021, 09:21:10 AM
https://twitter.com/ByronMBader/status/1391213693644402688

https://twitter.com/ByronMBader/status/1391213695204618243
Isn't too early to project that just yet?
I think this is "expected NHLers" like "expected goals" are expected. xG isn't equal to actual goals, it's a projection. Likewise here, as I understand it. But how accurate? *shrug*
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herman

https://twitter.com/byronmbader/status/1401368232926146561
Generally pretty accurate. Hard to separate the rough development paths post draft (Buffalo, Edmonton) but the really good players just overcome that obstacle.
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#BeBlessed

Deebo

Quote from: herman on June 08, 2021, 08:38:22 AM
Generally pretty accurate. Hard to separate the rough development paths post draft (Buffalo, Edmonton) but the really good players just overcome that obstacle.

They probably want a do over on all 3 picks they had in a row.

13,14,15 - Zboril, DeBrusk, Senyshyn
16,17,18 - Barzal, Connor, Chabot

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: Deebo on June 08, 2021, 09:00:37 AM
Quote from: herman on June 08, 2021, 08:38:22 AM
Generally pretty accurate. Hard to separate the rough development paths post draft (Buffalo, Edmonton) but the really good players just overcome that obstacle.

They probably want a do over on all 3 picks they had in a row.

13,14,15 - Zboril, DeBrusk, Senyshyn
16,17,18 - Barzal, Connor, Chabot

That's not even a benefit of hindsight thing either, people were stunned at those picks as they were happening. There'd probably be some moves that had to be made to get around cap issues but imagine how absolutely gross Boston would be right now if their scouting team didn't galaxy brain that day.

bustaheims

Quote from: Deebo on June 08, 2021, 09:00:37 AM
They probably want a do over on all 3 picks they had in a row.

13,14,15 - Zboril, DeBrusk, Senyshyn
16,17,18 - Barzal, Connor, Chabot

Probably. DeBrusk is at least a contributing NHL player. He would have been a fine pick near the end of the round - and, even if they took him in that group, but also got 2 of the guys that went right after their picks, no one would be calling him out as a terrible pick, just not the best available option.

The other two? Yikes.
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L K

Quote from: Heroic Shrimp on June 07, 2021, 11:50:37 PM
Quote from: Bender on June 07, 2021, 11:08:56 PM
Quote from: Heroic Shrimp on May 09, 2021, 09:21:10 AM
https://twitter.com/ByronMBader/status/1391213693644402688

https://twitter.com/ByronMBader/status/1391213695204618243
Isn't too early to project that just yet?
I think this is "expected NHLers" like "expected goals" are expected. xG isn't equal to actual goals, it's a projection. Likewise here, as I understand it. But how accurate? *shrug*

I still want the team to use analytics to help build the team for next season but I certainly have lost a lot of the appetite for expected stats.  I don't care that the Leafs should have won games 7-2 based on xGF anymore. 

Highlander

Good article on our prospects in the Athletic today, one guy has us ranked 4th, Wheeler #10.
Now we just have to trade Mogen for some nice picks and a decent prospect.
"In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few"
                                           Sunryn Suzuki

herman

"Can't let the poison get to you"
#BeBlessed

OldTimeHockey

The weight transfer on those shots is beautiful.