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#21
Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Ranking Prospects 2024-25
Last post by herman - July 13, 2024, 09:39:54 AM
#22
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2024 Offseason Thread: Cha...
Last post by OldTimeHockey - July 13, 2024, 09:39:31 AM
Quote from: RedLeaf on July 13, 2024, 09:03:58 AMI can't help but think that with all this Marner-must-go business in the media over the past few months, and heading into next season... What if this is finally the breakout year for the club? What if they win a couple of playoff rounds and the core-four actually deliver the goods?

They finally have what appears to be a decently sound defensive core and a solid goaltending tandem. 

Perhaps just wishful thinking per usual, but the narrative on Marner could do a complete 180 if anything good transpires in next years playoffs.

It wouldn't surprise me one iota if that happens.

Did the narrative on Marner not just flip over 1 playoff series? Wasn't he considered by many, unless your name is William 'herman' Nylander, to be a player you wouldn't even consider moving after his 97 point and 99 point seasons? Sports fans are a fickle bunch.
#23
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2024 Offseason Thread: Cha...
Last post by RedLeaf - July 13, 2024, 09:03:58 AM
I can't help but think that with all this Marner-must-go business in the media over the past few months, and heading into next season... What if this is finally the breakout year for the club? What if they win a couple of playoff rounds and the core-four actually deliver the goods?

They finally have what appears to be a decently sound defensive core and a solid goaltending tandem. 

Perhaps just wishful thinking per usual, but the narrative on Marner could do a complete 180 if anything good transpires in next years playoffs.

It wouldn't surprise me one iota if that happens.
#24
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2024 Offseason Thread: Cha...
Last post by cw - July 12, 2024, 07:21:31 PM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on July 12, 2024, 09:59:33 AM
Quote from: cw on July 12, 2024, 09:29:59 AMMcMann (he came up as a center)

I'm not certain this is true. I'm almost 100% sure he never played centre with the Marlies. In general I just don't ever recall hearing that he did and it's somewhat easy to scan through old Marlies line-up notes throughout the years and in every season he played I can only find him lining up on the wing. There aren't as many line-up notes from his NCAA days but again the only ones I can find have him listed as a winger in them.

Also I mean even if he played a bit of C in college, everything about his game just screams winger to me.

He did. But how much I'm not sure. Didn't see them enough.
He centered the 3rd line when he first arrived under coach Moore. Moore increased his usage there. He then bounced to the ECHL and back.

I remember him centering lines with Der-Arguchintsev as one winger, Abramov as another winger on another line and Ellis as a winger on another line. It's been a while so I'm fuzzy. He did some PK too and took some draws.

He was between wing and center at Colgate. How much again, I'm not sure. I also don't know what he did in the ECHL.

He's won 58% of his draws in the NHL - a miniscule sample size. But he's not getting killed in the faceoff circle. His size and strength helps him there.
He likes the middle of the ice. He scores a lot from there and around the net.
He has a defensive conscience - he works in both ends of the ice.
He skates well - one of the faster players on the team so he can cover a bunch of ice defensively.
He has a lot of ingredients to play the position defensively and score some while he's at it - which is a 3C requirement in today's NHL.
The raw attributes seem as good or better than anyone else for that role.

Here's my concern with him in that role: He made progress last year but he still seemed to be figuring out the NHL game mentally. His reads and reaction and where he should be going sometimes seemed a little hesitant or uncertain. I do not recall that when I saw him in the AHL. I saw it more than once last season so I think there is something going on there. It is probably pretty common among call ups and should dissipate with experience. We'll soon find out.

With Marner & Nylander being physical lightweights, there's certainly a case to be made for Knies and McMann to help offset that in the top 6.

I had hoped that Hakanpaa's addition might free up Liljegren to be traded for a 3rd line center. That doesn't look like it is going to happen anytime soon.

I don't think Nylander will ever be interested defensively - his head doesn't seem into it. He doesn't seem into shot blocking or hitting anyone. Jarnkrok has the smarts but doesn't seem as physically strong. Domi is not always mindful with what he does with the puck and for that, seems safer on the wing. Holmberg seems to have his limits. Kampf has proven he isn't up to it. Dewar's a 4th liner. Robertson is having trouble sticking in a NHL lineup. Minten will take time before he can flourish in that role. They all have flaws.

So out of a flawed group, I'd take a look at McMann & Jarnkrok. If one of them could do the job, it would be a heck of a lot easier to add a winger.
#25
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2024 Offseason Thread: Cha...
Last post by herman - July 12, 2024, 05:47:49 PM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on July 12, 2024, 04:48:59 PMNah, f THN. Why did they think this warranted a story? Don't they have any other quotes from others peoples podcasts to steal or instagram photos from Leafs players to repost? That publication is literally being driven into the ground.

Isn't this the MO of the Score as well?
#26
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2024 Offseason Thread: Cha...
Last post by Guilt Trip - July 12, 2024, 04:51:45 PM
Quote from: herman on July 12, 2024, 04:31:45 PMhttps://twitter.com/dalter/status/1811870845469348160
This kind of draws more attention to the wrong thing than otherwise.
Kind of gets the big who cares? Now they can cry about something else about him.
#27
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2024 Offseason Thread: Cha...
Last post by CarltonTheBear - July 12, 2024, 04:48:59 PM
Quote from: herman on July 12, 2024, 04:31:45 PMhttps://twitter.com/dalter/status/1811870845469348160
This kind of draws more attention to the wrong thing than otherwise.

Nah, f THN. Why did they think this warranted a story? Don't they have any other quotes from others peoples podcasts to steal or instagram photos from Leafs players to repost? That publication is literally being driven into the ground.
#28
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2024 Offseason Thread: Cha...
Last post by herman - July 12, 2024, 04:31:45 PM
https://twitter.com/dalter/status/1811870845469348160
This kind of draws more attention to the wrong thing than otherwise.
#29
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2024 Offseason Thread: Cha...
Last post by herman - July 12, 2024, 04:25:00 PM
Quote from: OldTimeHockey on July 12, 2024, 01:41:04 PMI don't think you want to saddle Matthews with two wingers that struggle to put the puck on his stick. Matthews accounted for 23% of the teams goals. I'm all for trying out different combinations with him, and he should be able to make those around him stronger, but if he's showing any signs of 'not producing', you need to change it quickly.

Ultimately, I am never a big fan of spreading talent around. The balanced attack does not work if there's a boat anchor on your line.

I wouldn't characterize Domi as someone who has trouble putting the puck on Matthews' stick. He has other issues, certainly, but that one ain't it.
#30
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2024 Offseason Thread: Cha...
Last post by OldTimeHockey - July 12, 2024, 01:41:04 PM
I don't think you want to saddle Matthews with two wingers that struggle to put the puck on his stick. Matthews accounted for 23% of the teams goals. I'm all for trying out different combinations with him, and he should be able to make those around him stronger, but if he's showing any signs of 'not producing', you need to change it quickly.

Ultimately, I am never a big fan of spreading talent around. The balanced attack does not work if there's a boat anchor on your line.