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#34
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: What are they worth?
July 12, 2023, 07:57:30 PM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on July 12, 2023, 12:39:51 PM
Quote from: cabber24 on July 12, 2023, 12:20:46 PMFor Nylander I will take the DeBrincat contract. Am I wrong? Is there a rule somewhere that Toronto has to pay more than anyone else? Both right-wingers with almost the exact same Points/Game career totals.

Maybe you can argue what have you done for me lately but the counter would be I did it twice (+40 goals).

Last season
Nylander: 82 GP, 40 G, 87 Pts, 1.06 PPG
DeBrincat: 82 GP, 27 G, 66 Pts, 0.80 PPG

Last 2 seasons
Nylander: 163 GP, 73 G, 167 Pts, 1.02 PPG
DeBrincat: 164 GP, 68 G, 144 Pts, 0.88 PPG

Last 3 seasons
Nylander: 214 GP, 91 G, 209 Pts, 0.98 PPG
DeBrincat: 216 GP, 100 G, 200 Pts, 0.93 PPG

Not gonna lie I didn't expect DeBrincat to have more goals than him over the past 3 seasons but contract negotiations typically look most closely at the last 1 or 2 seasons and what the player can do going forward based off that. And in that regard Nylander has the pretty clear edge.

You do kinda wonder what Debrincat could do with Tavares or Matthews as his centreman vs. what he had the last couple years.
#35
Jeez, I thought that was a trade!
#36
NHL Transactions / Re: Nashville signs ROR & Schenn
July 07, 2023, 02:53:40 PM
Quote from: Frank E on July 07, 2023, 02:37:03 PM
Quote from: Bender on July 07, 2023, 01:27:54 PM
Quote from: L K on July 07, 2023, 12:02:59 PMA little birdie told me it was less about the dressing room and more about everything that goes on with the organization plus the constant media attention.  If his hometown team was the Senators or Wild or he would have been back with the same collection of players but not the additional circus around the team

It's the Leafs and if he can't handle it he shouldn't be here anyway. Honestly I'm really tired of hearing this as if the Leafs are the only team in sports with media attention.

Sure, but when you're in the twilight of your career you might want less pressure...especially on a substantial deal.

If you're Gio and you sign for peanuts, you don't really feel the same pressure.

I get it...if he signed a $4m deal in Toronto, there'd be pressure.  He's declining in performance right?

I didn't say he was wrong to think that way, but if that's the case it's for the best that he isn't on this team.
#37
NHL Transactions / Re: Nashville signs ROR & Schenn
July 07, 2023, 01:27:54 PM
Quote from: L K on July 07, 2023, 12:02:59 PMA little birdie told me it was less about the dressing room and more about everything that goes on with the organization plus the constant media attention.  If his hometown team was the Senators or Wild or he would have been back with the same collection of players but not the additional circus around the team

It's the Leafs and if he can't handle it he shouldn't be here anyway. Honestly I'm really tired of hearing this as if the Leafs are the only team in sports with media attention.
#38
NHL Transactions / Re: Nashville signs ROR & Schenn
July 07, 2023, 08:59:16 AM
Quote from: OldTimeHockey on July 07, 2023, 08:30:53 AMThat roster is awful(if I'm missing players let me know):

Forwards with NHL Experience
Centers:
Cody Glass
Colton Sissons
Ryan O'Rielly
Yakov Trenin???

LW
Filip Forsberg
Cole Smith
Gustav Nyquist

RW
Nothing really there

Defense (so old)
Luke Schenn - 33yrs old
Ryan McDonagh - 34yrs old
Tyson Barrie - 31yrs old(he feels so much older)
Roman Josi - 33yrs old
Dante Fabbro
Alexandre Carrier??
Jeremy Lauzon??
Cal Foote (I guess)

Goalie
Juuse Saros (Their only hope)




Thats a pretty awful team.
#39
NHL Transactions / Re: Nashville signs ROR & Schenn
July 06, 2023, 11:47:57 PM
Quote from: Dappleganger on July 02, 2023, 09:26:19 AMI wouldn't be surprised if Toronto was only offering $3.5mx4 or something like that.

I think ROR took the most money being offered, simply as that.


I wouldn't be surprised if they matched that offer.
#40
Hm... really not that old. Guess he just didn't have it in him to continue?
#41
Will be really odd seeing Tarasenko in a Sens jersey.
#42
Quote from: Nik on July 04, 2023, 06:49:53 PM
Quote from: Peter D. on July 04, 2023, 01:28:13 PMAm I the only one not sold on Samsonov as the solution for the team's goaltending?  I know we just saw a stiff in Adin Hill win the Cup, and the Leafs have very little wiggle room cap wise, but I'd rather Treliving do something creative to improve the position than just run it back with Samsonov.

I'm not sold on him in the sense that I don't think he's a lock to be a top of the league goaltender or anything but I think we have to be realistic about what the team can do to improve the situation. Basically their options are either guys who will have just as many question marks or potentially less upside or they're guys who would require significant salary shifting.



I mean welcome to the salary cap where your team is basically never ideal barring a number of quality, controlled prospects coming up to fill positions.
#43
Quote from: herman on July 03, 2023, 03:12:02 PMhttps://twitter.com/sdpnsports/status/1675959298508062720
That's not that big a gap to overcome.

https://twitter.com/evolvingwild/status/1675976123014864897

It's not crazy big, but if Nylander doesn't come off $10 he has to be traded. I don't think that's a contract that ages well. He's a great point producer but his overall game is not worth more than Matthew Tkachuk.