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#13126
Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Marlies' Playoff Games
April 20, 2018, 06:09:44 PM
Quote from: sooner2220 on April 20, 2018, 05:24:51 PM
I would love to attend the games but I'm a Toronto boy living in the UK
Well that would def make it difficult to attend live!
#13127
Marlies & Prospect Talk / Re: Marlies' Playoff Games
April 20, 2018, 04:46:24 PM
Quote from: sooner2220 on April 20, 2018, 04:31:25 PM
What is the best way to watch the Marlies in the playoffs if you don't have Leafs TV?
Go to the game???
#13128
Quote from: Coco-puffs on April 20, 2018, 01:57:53 PM

Rick Nash seems to me, to be someone who fits most of that description.  He's not going to get anywhere near the same cap hit he has now and won't command JvR term and money.  Depends how cheap he can come, but I wouldn't mind Rick Nash on the right contract.  Plays the same net-front presence on the PP (not quite as good), but is better at 5v5- specifically defensively.

That said, I think we may already have our replacement in Johnsson.  He's definitely not JvR, but he's ready for a 3rd line role or better.
No thanks on Nash. I think he's done. He's got 1 point so far against the Leafs. I don't even notice him out on the ice. I think Johnsson and or Kaps will be used more next year. Aaltonen I think was their centre on the Marlies....maybe they can be our 3rd/4th line next year???
#13129
Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on April 20, 2018, 01:28:31 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on April 20, 2018, 12:45:35 PM
Quote from: Guilt Trip on April 20, 2018, 12:28:15 PM
I can't see the Leafs bringing JVR or Bozak back.

I can see Bozak coming back on a cheap deal, but only if the Leafs don't sign Tavares or Thornton. On JvR, I think they look for a cheaper piece - a 20ish goal winger who is better defensively. Not sure who might be available to fit that mold, but I imagine there's a couple potential options.

Not really.  Here are the left wingers that are UFA's in the summer:

1. James van Riemsdyk   Toronto Maple Leafs      UFA   28   LW   Left      80   36   18   54   1   14:52
-   -   -   -   -      $5,000,000   $4,250,000
2. Evander Kane   San Jose Sharks      UFA   26   LW   Left      77   29   25   54   -8   19:23
-   -   -   -   -      $6,000,000   $5,250,000
3. James Neal   Vegas Golden Knights      UFA   30   LW, RW   Left      70   25   19   44   -7   17:12
-   -   -   -   -      $5,000,000   $5,000,000
4. Thomas Vanek   Columbus Blue Jackets      UFA   34   LW, RW   Right      79   24   32   56   -2   14:23
-   -   -   -   -      $2,000,000   $2,000,000
5. Daniel Sedin   Vancouver Canucks      UFA   37   LW   Left      80   23   32   55   -21   15:13
-   -   -   -   -      $7,000,000   $7,000,000
6. Rick Nash   Boston Bruins      UFA   33   LW, RW   Left      71   21   13   34   -12   16:51
-   -   -   -   -      $8,200,000   $7,800,000
7. David Perron   Vegas Golden Knights      UFA   29   LW, RW   Right      70   16   50   66   1   17:48
-   -   -   -   -      $3,750,000   $3,750,000
8. Patrick Maroon   New Jersey Devils      UFA   29   LW   Left      73   16   24   40   0   17:03
-   -   -   -   -      $2,100,000   $2,000,000
9. Blake Comeau   Colorado Avalanche      UFA   32   LW, RW   Right      78   13   20   33   4   15:53
-   -   -   -   -      $2,400,000   $2,400,000
10. Chris Kunitz   Tampa Bay Lightning      UFA   38   LW   Left      81   13   15   28   7   11:56
-   -   -   -   -      $2,000,000   $2,000,000
11. Patrick Sharp   Chicago Blackhawks      UFA   36   LW, C   Right      69   10   11   21   -15   12:50
-   -   -   -   -      $800,000   $800,000

Here are the right winger UFA's that broke 20:

1. Michael Grabner   New Jersey Devils      UFA   30   RW, LW   Left      79   27   9   36   13   14:43
-   -   -   -   -      $1,650,000   $1,650,000

One guy that didn't get in to that 20 goal range that might fit the bill is Matt Calvert from Columbus. 

12. Matt Calvert   Columbus Blue Jackets      UFA   28   LW   Left      68   9   15   24   -9   13:21
-   -   -   -   -      $2,900,000   $2,200,000
I don't want anyone on that list.
#13130
Quote from: bustaheims on April 20, 2018, 12:45:35 PM
Quote from: Guilt Trip on April 20, 2018, 12:28:15 PM
I can't see the Leafs bringing JVR or Bozak back.

I can see Bozak coming back on a cheap deal, but only if the Leafs don't sign Tavares or Thornton. On JvR, I think they look for a cheaper piece - a 20ish goal winger who is better defensively. Not sure who might be available to fit that mold, but I imagine there's a couple potential options.
I think they look at Kapenan to fill that void next year. I think both him and Johnsson are with the big club. I also think that Aaltonen can be a centre for us.
As for the trading of Nylander. Unless you're getting back a Seth Jones, it isn't happening. We all need to relax here. This is a learning experience. The Matthews line is going up against one of the best D man in the NHL. And McAvoy is no slouch either. Everybody praises Marner and rightfully so but he's not going up against Chara. He also has Reilly on the backend most shifts. Matthews has Gardiner most times and I think if you want to change things up, you put Reilly out with Matthews.
#13131
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 20, 2018, 10:11:47 AM
As for trading Nylander, let us not be hasty.  He has been only slightly less effective than Matthews so far.  What we should be considering is whether Matthews is indeed a "generational" talent who has the ability to take over games, or instead just a very very good player.  Which would still be a wonderful thing, mind you.
Take your own advice and pull it back a bit on the generational talent evaluation. He is. He's just struggling right now and it's part of the growing process. Matthews is not the problem here. He wasn't the one making the mistakes last night. Gardiner made the huge mistake last night and then Zaitsev did on the 2 on 1. I think Chara and McAvoy deserve some credit here to. The Bozak line is useless 5 v 5. I can't see the Leafs bringing JVR or Bozak back.
#13132
Marner
Plekanec... Still thought he played well and did his job. Even scored a goal
#13133
Quote from: Nik the Trik on April 19, 2018, 09:36:28 PM
Quote from: Guilt Trip on April 19, 2018, 09:33:38 PM
Quote from: Nik the Trik on April 19, 2018, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: Bender on April 19, 2018, 09:25:16 PMBut is this not partially a systems/coaching problem? I mean at this point I think I could play a 2 on 1 better than most of the Leafs D.

How many NHL defensemen do you think there are who haven't been taught the textbook way to play 2 on 1's?
Which baffles the mind as to why the Leafs can play one properly.

I get the catharthis of hyperbole after a tough loss but i'm not sure it adds much to the discussion. Players fail to execute sometimes.
2 on 1s seemed to be an issue all year tho, but you're right, they don't always execute properly
#13134
Quote from: Nik the Trik on April 19, 2018, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: Bender on April 19, 2018, 09:25:16 PMBut is this not partially a systems/coaching problem? I mean at this point I think I could play a 2 on 1 better than most of the Leafs D.

How many NHL defensemen do you think there are who haven't been taught the textbook way to play 2 on 1's?
Which baffles the mind as to why the Leafs can play one properly.
#13135
Quote from: Bender on April 19, 2018, 09:25:16 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on April 19, 2018, 09:14:33 PM
Quote from: Nik the Trik on April 19, 2018, 09:11:50 PM
I don't think the Leafs need to improve so much on the blueline as they need to diversify. Their left side guys are all too similar, their right side guys are all too similarly mediocre.

That's a fair point. They need better options. And, honestly, watching the team, one of their biggest issues defensively is still that the forwards aren't helping enough - they're still forcing their teammates to make long passes instead of providing easy outs. It's a big part of what has been causing the defensive zone giveaways.
But is this not partially a systems/coaching problem? I mean at this point I think I could play a 2 on 1 better than most of the Leafs D.
I said it earlier. They all play the 2 on 1s the same. Has to be a coaching decision. D man has to stop the pass.
#13136
Quote from: bustaheims on April 19, 2018, 09:23:14 PM
Quote from: Guilt Trip on April 19, 2018, 09:18:36 PM
That's the Leafs style tho. They love the stretch pass

And it doesn't work super well against good teams. So, you know, they probably need to fix that. They can still incorporate the stretch pass while being more defensively responsible and providing better support to their blue liners. These things aren't mutually exclusive. Part of the learning curve is finding that balance. Until they do, they're not going to win many playoff series.
And that's what they still need to learn. It's all part of a process
#13137
At left they battled back and played a lot better at home. We're close... Just not there yet. Let's see if they can crank it up and bring it back home for game 6
#13138
Quote from: bustaheims on April 19, 2018, 09:14:33 PM
Quote from: Nik the Trik on April 19, 2018, 09:11:50 PM
I don't think the Leafs need to improve so much on the blueline as they need to diversify. Their left side guys are all too similar, their right side guys are all too similarly mediocre.

That's a fair point. They need better options. And, honestly, watching the team, one of their biggest issues defensively is still that the forwards aren't helping enough - they're still forcing their teammates to make long passes instead of providing easy outs. It's a big part of what has been causing the defensive zone giveaways.
That's the Leafs style tho. They love the stretch pass
#13139
Quote from: puckinthehead on April 19, 2018, 09:12:00 PM
Quote from: RedLeaf on April 19, 2018, 08:56:44 PM
Leafs management knew going into the playoffs this year the team wasn't quite ready for a real shot at the prize. That was pretty clear when they didn't make any big deals going into it. Sticking with the plan, perhaps a few solid pick ups or call ups next season and then the season after that going all in for a shot. At least thats what it feels like the plan is to me. Im of the opinion that in 2 years time this squad could be a real powerhouse with a genuine shot at winning the cup. This year was just about gaining a little more experience.


I think you summed it up. Fans tend to forget that the Leafs were ahead of development expectations. It was entertaining for now, but I also totally trust management to continue making the right moves. "Don't get distracted by shiny things"
Agreed. Anyway we're not out yet. Win Saturday and go from there.
#13140
Quote from: princedpw on April 19, 2018, 08:53:32 PM
Darn.

Basically:  Bad goal from Freddy + Matthews was invisible = Loss

Hardly. D can't play a 2 on 1. Couldn't beat Rask. It's been the same stuff all year. D isn't good enough. We're not done yet but there's a big bill to climb for sure. Kadri back on Saturday.