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Quote from: herman on Today at 06:17:22 PM
Quote from: lamajama on Today at 06:06:45 PMMarc Savard and Flames have mutually parted ways. Welcome to the Leafs in 3-2-1....

Oh lawd, he comin'
And why should Leaf fans be excited?  Calgary's PP was like 25th last season
Quote from: Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington on Today at 05:43:44 PMI agree that I can only see Marner headed for free agency. About the only leverage the Leafs have is being able to give him an 8 year deal in either keeping him or sign and trade, but I reckon he will go the Matthews route of shorter term and sign for 3-4 years on the open market at a rate the Leafs won't match and then a big big contract aged 30-31. So that leverage won't apply.

Wonder if this could turn ugly at games this season if/when he refuses to waive. He's already a target on social media. That's bound to transfer into the arena too at some point.
Only way 16 doesn't get an 8 year deal is if he doesn't want to sign one or goes the UFA route. He has to be on the signing team's roster by the deadline to qualify for an 8 year deal.

If the Leafs ask him to waive he won't be coming back here if he goes to UFA.

Quote from: herman on Today at 01:25:04 PMA sign and trade after July 1 would set him and the recipient team up nicely: 1 775k year + 8 years doesn't change the cap hit, but will show up more palatably on their payroll ledger.
Why would 16 do a sign and trade to get the Leafs another asset and set himself up nicely? He can do the Hanifan or Horvat way and sign his 8 year deal after getting traded. Leafs want him gone so why is he doing them any favors? I wouldn't. I tell them I'm willing to go to X or maybe Y team and that's it. Would be talking to either team before any trade and seeing where they want to be contract wise and go from there.
Quote from: RedLeaf on Today at 03:19:21 PM
Quote from: herman on Today at 01:25:04 PMI don't think staying close to Toronto is a priority for Marner, so Buffalo probably isn't a destination he'd have in mind.

A west coast or Sun Belt city with limited or no income taxation, where people don't know you're a hockey player on the street might appeal if he's laying down his godhood.
No income tax: Nashville, Seattle, Las Vegas, Florida/Tampa, Dallas
Low income tax: Colorado, Utah, St. Louis

Cross-reference with which teams are approaching a contention threshold, have a couple of good prospects on the cusp, while the team needs more assists, and has cap space: Nashville, Utah, Seattle?

A sign and trade after July 1 would set him and the recipient team up nicely: 1 775k year + 8 years doesn't change the cap hit, but will show up more palatably on their payroll ledger.

Not that it matters all that much, but I think the comment about Toronto players being gods was something he was fond of.
He didn't say they were gods. Said they were treated like gods. There's a huge difference.
Quote from: herman on May 17, 2024, 11:59:53 AMI've also seen a couple of rumours from the Calgary and Toronto sides that Marc Savard would be joining him on the bench. He was the PP coach for the Blues in 2019-2020 before a head coaching stint in Windsor and then shifting to Calgary's bench last season.
Good PP with the Blues, terrible with Calgary. Clear as mud.
Quote from: Zee on May 17, 2024, 12:18:04 PMOK you guys have convinced me, let's just re-hire Keefe.
Hahaha, good one.
Quote from: Bender on May 16, 2024, 08:45:19 PMRangers moving on. Canes are slightly better Leafs of the Metro and Brindamour is sexy Keefe.

That first goal can't go in on Andersen.
2nd goal was the killer
Quote from: Bender on May 10, 2024, 08:37:48 AMMaybe I'm losing it here but I'm surprised that hit by Jamie Benn wasn't anything. If it was Kadri he'd have the book thrown at him.
Maybe but I doubt it. It was a good clean hit by Benn
Marner for Saros is a horrible return. I think that's really undervaluing Marner. Chucky, who is a better player got Hubey, Weegar, low level prospect and a late 1st. Marner should be able to get something similar.

While the cap hit is high, the 775k or whatever it is, isn't for a year. So Nash is saving 7.25M in real money for 16, plus Saros' contract which means overall Marner will cost them around 6M in cap space only and actual dollars savings at 12.25M.
Sounds like they're getting a great deal doesn't it?

Anyway if I'm trading with Nash, I'm trying to pry Askarov away from them. They won't do it but that's who I'd want or Saros plus. 
Don't forget JT was matched to against the Pasta line in the playoffs.  His main job was defending and did a good job overall. 
Quote from: herman on May 14, 2024, 10:29:11 AMQ is a non-starter considering his role in enabling the perpetration of sexual assault (twice!). There's no way an organization like MLSE with so many fingers in corporate sponsorships and a huge staff would say this is the right place for someone to work on a second chance. If Kyle Beach publicly absolves Quennville of wrongdoing, perhaps there is a conversation to be had with the NHL, but he's had plenty of time to do that if he felt it was right.

This isn't a matter of Q doing his time with a little suspension for a faux-pas and letting that get swept under the rug once no one is talking about it (again).
Dont know if this is his daughter or not but if it is, it appears Kyle has given his blessing..
Leafs need to lose Kampf and Jarnkrok.
Quote from: herman on May 14, 2024, 08:44:02 AM
Quote from: Guilt Trip on May 13, 2024, 05:41:26 PM
Quote from: Highlander on May 13, 2024, 04:37:41 PMYa, Willie may grow into the new Sundin.
Thats pretty funny.

A right handed Swedish first round centre with a history of international tournament and Maple Leafs success, and a hairline trending towards the occipital lobe?
It'll be fun watching 88 go bald like Sundin and 34 lol.
Quote from: Joe on May 14, 2024, 09:26:11 AM
Quote from: bustaheims on May 14, 2024, 09:15:43 AM
Quote from: Joe on May 14, 2024, 08:50:09 AMI don't know how you fire Keefe and then say McLellan is the better choice?

Not that I put this all on a coach, but the guy who missed the playoffs twice with McDavid?

McDavid for half a season as a rookie and another year with garbage goaltending. Not sure I'd put much of that on McLellan. Not saying he's necessary the best choice, I just don't really look at his failures in Edmonton being on his coaching. He had some pretty miserable rosters to start with and young guys who hadn't quite hit their strides yet.

Sure. That's fair. But still, I'm not sure how you look at his record and Keefe and say 'ok this is an improvement'.

And for the record, I don't put that much stock in coaching. I really don't think a new coach is going to make a dramatic difference to this roster, as constructed at the moment.
I think any of the available coaches outside of Q are sideways moves. Brind'Amour, Cooper would be upgrades in the non available category.
Quote from: Highlander on May 13, 2024, 04:37:41 PMYa, Willie may grow into the new Sundin.
Thats pretty funny.