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Re: Kulemin done as a Leaf?
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2014, 02:29:44 PM »

Well, that was largely inevitable. He's going to want to get paid like, and get the role of, a second liner and realistically unless the Leafs were committed to a top 6 that had JVR, Kessel, Lupul and Kulemin as the wingers, that wasn't going to happen here.
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Re: Kulemin done as a Leaf?
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2014, 02:39:47 PM »

Well, that was largely inevitable. He's going to want to get paid like, and get the role of, a second liner and realistically unless the Leafs were committed to a top 6 that had JVR, Kessel, Lupul and Kulemin as the wingers, that wasn't going to happen here.

Good luck to him.
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Re: Kulemin done as a Leaf?
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2014, 02:42:27 PM »

Well, that was largely inevitable. He's going to want to get paid like, and get the role of, a second liner and realistically unless the Leafs were committed to a top 6 that had JVR, Kessel, Lupul and Kulemin as the wingers, that wasn't going to happen here.

No, but they will pay Bolland too much money to be largely ineffective, so I guess they have that going for them.  Faith in this management team...I have none.

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Re: Kulemin done as a Leaf?
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2014, 02:45:48 PM »

Well, that was largely inevitable. He's going to want to get paid like, and get the role of, a second liner and realistically unless the Leafs were committed to a top 6 that had JVR, Kessel, Lupul and Kulemin as the wingers, that wasn't going to happen here.

No, but they will pay Bolland too much money to be largely ineffective, so I guess they have that going for them.  Faith in this management team...I have none.

IMO something big is going to happen during the draft. I think we will all be surprised. If not DN should be fired just because.

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Re: Kulemin done as a Leaf?
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2014, 02:57:56 PM »
Kulemin, Riemer and Komorov getting signed by the Leafs should be a no brainer,  but as we know this will not happen. This is why after over 45 yrs I am slowly loosing interest in the Team. Can they not see what we need and don't need on this team.

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Re: Kulemin done as a Leaf?
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2014, 02:58:07 PM »
Its time. A couple of years back he was my favorite leaf if I had such a thing. He does nothing for me now

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Re: Kulemin done as a Leaf?
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2014, 03:01:37 PM »
Its time. A couple of years back he was my favorite leaf if I had such a thing. He does nothing for me now

He's only one of our better two way players, it seems we are sending away the players who help us and, are keeping the over paid clowns who I can even believe we signed in the first place.

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Re: Kulemin done as a Leaf?
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2014, 03:04:30 PM »
It is disappoint, but, as Nik said, it was largely inevitable. Without other moves being made, there isn't really a spot for him that will justify the salary he's going to be looking for - unless the team will really commit to using him on the 2nd line and giving him time on the PP. With the way the roster and coaching staff are put together right now, that seems unlikely.
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Re: Kulemin done as a Leaf?
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2014, 03:06:25 PM »
No, but they will pay Bolland too much money to be largely ineffective, so I guess they have that going for them.  Faith in this management team...I have none.

I'd probably rather have Kulemin as our 3C over Bolland.

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Re: Kulemin done as a Leaf?
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2014, 03:24:17 PM »

Well, that was largely inevitable. He's going to want to get paid like, and get the role of, a second liner and realistically unless the Leafs were committed to a top 6 that had JVR, Kessel, Lupul and Kulemin as the wingers, that wasn't going to happen here.

No, but they will pay Bolland too much money to be largely ineffective, so I guess they have that going for them.  Faith in this management team...I have none.

I could beat on the bad decisions the Leafs have made all day but here I think one thing you have to say for Bolland, and to be clear I wouldn't re-sign Bolland to anything more than one year/2m, is that he'd sign on for a third line role in a way that I just don't think Kulemin wants to right now.
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Re: Kulemin done as a Leaf?
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2014, 04:08:54 PM »
It's too bad because we need defensively responsible forwards.  OTOH he's not worth what he's asking for, and I still say he underproduced on offense.  No, he's not a real 30-goaler but his dropoff was far too great from there.

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Re: Kulemin done as a Leaf?
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2014, 05:41:50 PM »
It's too bad because we need defensively responsible forwards.  OTOH he's not worth what he's asking for, and I still say he underproduced on offense.  No, he's not a real 30-goaler but his dropoff was far too great from there.

What's he asking for, I may have missed that?
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Re: Kulemin done as a Leaf?
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2014, 06:08:41 PM »

Well, that was largely inevitable. He's going to want to get paid like, and get the role of, a second liner and realistically unless the Leafs were committed to a top 6 that had JVR, Kessel, Lupul and Kulemin as the wingers, that wasn't going to happen here.

No, but they will pay Bolland too much money to be largely ineffective, so I guess they have that going for them.  Faith in this management team...I have none.

I could beat on the bad decisions the Leafs have made all day but here I think one thing you have to say for Bolland, and to be clear I wouldn't re-sign Bolland to anything more than one year/2m, is that he'd sign on for a third line role in a way that I just don't think Kulemin wants to right now.

Is that really true though.  I mean, his demands of 5million a year on a multi-year deal dont' speak toward 3rd line.  And his history with Carlyle would argue that he is likely to be as much a 2nd liner in terms of ice-time compared with Kadri.

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Re: Kulemin done as a Leaf?
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2014, 06:23:00 PM »
Is that really true though.  I mean, his demands of 5million a year on a multi-year deal dont' speak toward 3rd line.  And his history with Carlyle would argue that he is likely to be as much a 2nd liner in terms of ice-time compared with Kadri.

I don't know what history with Carlyle you think Bolland has but when Kadri and Bolland were both healthy at the beginning of the year Kadri got more ice time than Bolland did in 9 of the 14 games.

Regardless, you can swap "third liner" there with "willing to return to the Leafs in the same role that he was in" because I don't Bolland would be so vocal about coming back if he wanted big changes made in the way he was used. I think it's pretty clear Kulemin doesn't want to paid as a third line/20 point scorer or, quite frankly, I think the Leafs would have already signed him.
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