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L K:

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--- Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on June 16, 2021, 03:41:53 PM ---For sure, but let's not imagine he'll be easy to replace.

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The team is built on the theory that players like Hyman are though. Every forward other than the big 4 is just a guy on a cheap contract who cycles in, gives good value and maybe even has a great year (driven by the superstars), and then cashes in somewhere else.

Ive been coming around to the idea that a middle class is good to have, but, If reporting from CJ and Mirtle is right, Hyman’s just beyond what they can afford after this last season

Is it me or has the current Leafs regime been pretty complacent about getting extensions done? Or are all the upcoming UFAs flatly refusing to discuss a deal until after their ‘contract season’?

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There have been 22 contract signings in 2021 that have been for more than 1,000,000 and at least 2 years.  Noone is signing contracts right now.

CarltonTheBear:
With Hyman almost certainly gone I'm coming around to the idea of trying to bring Foligno back. I know Chris Johnston was kinda musing about the possibility of him coming back on a 1-year deal to sorta rebuild his value and take another shot with the Leafs. Lots of talk about him returning to Columbus originally but with Torts gone and them maybe going through a bit of a rebuild with a potential Jones trade maybe he stays here for a year or two before going back. Don't think he replaces Hyman entirely but still a good lite version to have around, especially in defensive situations and on the PK.

Nik:

--- Quote from: herman on June 16, 2021, 01:01:24 PM ---This appears to be the end for Zach Hyman in Torontohttps://t.co/mNbtIfcDQi— James Mirtle (@mirtle) June 16, 2021
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--- Quote ---A $6 million cap hit might sound outrageous to some Leafs fans, who have watched as Hyman has gone from a Marlies checker to a bonafide NHL first-liner over the last six seasons. But, statistically speaking, Hyman falls in the same category as veteran UFA wingers like Nick Foligno, Ryan Callahan, Cam Atkinson and, yes, David Clarkson who all signed for around 8 percent of the salary cap as UFAs over the last eight years.

Even in a pandemic-induced flat cap world, that’s $6.5 million a season.
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I don't know which statistics he's using but it seems a little misleading to just list those guys without taking into account the impact playing on the lines he did impacted Hyman's offensive output. I'd have to look it up but I'd be very surprised if Callahan, Clarkson or Foligno ever had anything comparable.

Guilt Trip:

--- Quote from: CarltonTheBear on June 16, 2021, 04:39:52 PM ---With Hyman almost certainly gone I'm coming around to the idea of trying to bring Foligno back. I know Chris Johnston was kinda musing about the possibility of him coming back on a 1-year deal to sorta rebuild his value and take another shot with the Leafs. Lots of talk about him returning to Columbus originally but with Torts gone and them maybe going through a bit of a rebuild with a potential Jones trade maybe he stays here for a year or two before going back. Don't think he replaces Hyman entirely but still a good lite version to have around, especially in defensive situations and on the PK.

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I think you could get Foligno a lot cheaper then Hyman and I would bring him back too if possible. I like what he brought when healthy and would be a good fit with the team.

RedLeaf:

--- Quote from: Guilt Trip on June 16, 2021, 05:30:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: CarltonTheBear on June 16, 2021, 04:39:52 PM ---With Hyman almost certainly gone I'm coming around to the idea of trying to bring Foligno back. I know Chris Johnston was kinda musing about the possibility of him coming back on a 1-year deal to sorta rebuild his value and take another shot with the Leafs. Lots of talk about him returning to Columbus originally but with Torts gone and them maybe going through a bit of a rebuild with a potential Jones trade maybe he stays here for a year or two before going back. Don't think he replaces Hyman entirely but still a good lite version to have around, especially in defensive situations and on the PK.

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I think you could get Foligno a lot cheaper then Hyman and I would bring him back too if possible. I like what he brought when healthy and would be a good fit with the team.

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In an ideal world I'd hold on to Hyman, Foligno and bring in whoever else fits that mold of tough-to-play-against. I'm looking at Komorov in these playoffs and regretting the fact the Leafs had to part ways with him. These are the exact type players the Leafs need to offset the high end talent that gets mugged and nurtured in the playoffs.

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