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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Coronavirus
« on: September 08, 2021, 04:42:18 PM »
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gunshot-victims-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-covid-1220608/

I can’t think of a more American headline than this.

You might want to revisit that article, champ. When you do you'll find the following addendum right up front. Spoiler alert...turns out the story was complete bull#$#% based on lies told by someone who hasn't even worked at the facility for the past 2 months. Gunshot victims did not wait while ivermectin overdoses were treated.

UPDATE: Northeastern Hospital System Sequoyah issued a statement: Although Dr. Jason McElyea is not an employee of NHS Sequoyah, he is affiliated with a medical staffing group that provides coverage for our emergency room. With that said, Dr. McElyea has not worked at our Sallisaw location in over 2 months. NHS Sequoyah has not treated any patients due to complications related to taking ivermectin. This includes not treating any patients for ivermectin overdose. All patients who have visited our emergency room have received medical attention as appropriate. Our hospital has not had to turn away any patients seeking emergency care. We want to reassure our community that our staff is working hard to provide quality healthcare to all patients. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify this issue and as always, we value our community’s support.”


I appreciate the update and the correction. I’m all for truth in reporting. Not sure why you have to be rude about it though.

Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I've seen a lot worse from many of the regular posters on this forum over the years. I'm just tired of people repeating nonsense as if it were truth, without questioning. Stories about people overdosing and "shitting their brains out" because of ivermectin are mostly made up and people just accept it because it comes from CNN or Rolling Stone or whichever authority figure they choose to follow.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Coronavirus
« on: September 05, 2021, 08:47:55 PM »
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gunshot-victims-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-covid-1220608/

I can’t think of a more American headline than this.

You might want to revisit that article, champ. When you do you'll find the following addendum right up front. Spoiler alert...turns out the story was complete bull#$#% based on lies told by someone who hasn't even worked at the facility for the past 2 months. Gunshot victims did not wait while ivermectin overdoses were treated.

UPDATE: Northeastern Hospital System Sequoyah issued a statement: Although Dr. Jason McElyea is not an employee of NHS Sequoyah, he is affiliated with a medical staffing group that provides coverage for our emergency room. With that said, Dr. McElyea has not worked at our Sallisaw location in over 2 months. NHS Sequoyah has not treated any patients due to complications related to taking ivermectin. This includes not treating any patients for ivermectin overdose. All patients who have visited our emergency room have received medical attention as appropriate. Our hospital has not had to turn away any patients seeking emergency care. We want to reassure our community that our staff is working hard to provide quality healthcare to all patients. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify this issue and as always, we value our community’s support.”

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Coronavirus
« on: August 22, 2021, 01:21:16 PM »
If we were talking about doctors prescribing ivermectin over the vaccine, that would be one thing, but self medicating with concentrations of a drug meant for animals is just pure stupidity.

mRNA technology isn’t new, either. It’s been around for more than 30 years. This is just the first human mRNA vaccine.

So first off, I'm not advocating for the use of horse paste. Just saying I know a bunch of people who've been using it without problems. If you take a whole tube - well, that's pretty stupid.

Second, many doctors are prescribing ivermectin. I have a prescription for it in case I wind up with covid. However, some pharmacies are refusing to fill legitimate prescriptions which is absolutely ridiculous.

As for mRNA - yeah, that's kind of the point...we've never successfully used mRNA vaccines in humans before. Lots of things seem like good ideas and don't turn out to be. Time will tell.
The use the term "doctors" without quantification is kind of meaningless. Scientists deny global warming exists, but it's 5% of scientists, therefore it is not even remotely equal weighting.

Secondly, Ivermectin has not proven much so far in combating a very specific and new disease. Why would a drug used to treat parasitic worms be useful against a virus? Previously it was Hydroxychloroquine, which is used to treat Malaria and not covid because it wasn't designed for that purpose.

My point is people assume there are no downsides or side effects with taking drugs in general (and in this case drugs not even designed to fight covid) but there obviously are. Anyone who has taken something like prednisone knows this very well. Assuming drugs have a better safety profile for a brand new disease that they weren't designed to fight vs. a rigorously studied vaccine, which already shows wide scale benefit, just doesn't square with me if you're worried about bodily harm. It's just bad logic.

As well, the newness of something isn't necessarily an argument for or against something's use, what should matter are results and by far the best method to preventing covid, bad cases of covid and transmission of covid are vaccines that have shown to be surprisingly good considering they are first gen iterations. If you were given any other vaccine with a high efficacy profile you wouldn't have asked the doctor "how quickly was this vaccine developed?" before covid simply because the development of these vaccines were so public. The timeline between the Salk Polio vaccine was 3 years between 1952. The first test was in 1953 and was deployed widely in 1955. Considering that's the 1950s and where technology was back then that's a pretty damn quick turnaround, and if given the choice I don't think the vast majority of people would rather get polio than the vaccine.

I'm really not interested in getting into the weeds any further here because as I said with climate change, there is always someone providing evidence to prove one's point, but the evidence for the efficacy of the vaccines is beyond dispute at this point, especially considering Canada was nowhere near being the first population to have wide access if we're concerned with safety. And at any rate, the most frail in our society are being protected by the vaccines - to me this is a pretty good proxy for the vast majority of adults.

Thanks for a well thought out response.

I'm not interested in getting into the weeds either. But I will say, as to the question "why would an anti-parasite drug work on a virus?" I don't have the answer for that. But studies have shown in vitro that it has anti-viral activity (so do some antibiotics). And the data regarding its use in covid is out there for anyone who wants to look it up. I won't post links here because I'll be accused of being "anti-vax" but I will say there have been over 60 studies done in various parts of the world and something like 55 or 58 have shown benefit.

My main point was simply the phrase "I can understand why people are hesitant about the vaccine" and I provided reasons why. That is not an editorial statement about whether I believe people should get it - that's up to each individual.

I'll close with this, you people don't really deserve to know this information, but I have gotten 2 doses of the Pfizer vaccine. So I sure as hell hope there are no long term effects. I hope the concerns out there turn out to be wrong. But to deny the possibility is naive at best. As for me, I'm getting old enough (nearly 60) that the covid risk for me is higher, even though I have no known pre-existing conditions of importance. But the main reason I got the shot is because my wife is in a high-risk group due to some of her medical conditions. I thought getting the shot would make it much less likely that I would get the virus and transmit it to her. Now of course we are learning that vaccinated individuals can get the virus and transmit it, and the data from Israel shows that the protection decreases with time. So there's something we've already learned that wasn't expected. We were told that getting the vaccine would prevent you from getting infected (95% efficacy and all). What else will we learn over time.

I'm done, you can go back to your regularly scheduled programming.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Coronavirus
« on: August 21, 2021, 06:24:32 PM »
If we were talking about doctors prescribing ivermectin over the vaccine, that would be one thing, but self medicating with concentrations of a drug meant for animals is just pure stupidity.

mRNA technology isn’t new, either. It’s been around for more than 30 years. This is just the first human mRNA vaccine.

So first off, I'm not advocating for the use of horse paste. Just saying I know a bunch of people who've been using it without problems. If you take a whole tube - well, that's pretty stupid.

Second, many doctors are prescribing ivermectin. I have a prescription for it in case I wind up with covid. However, some pharmacies are refusing to fill legitimate prescriptions which is absolutely ridiculous.

As for mRNA - yeah, that's kind of the point...we've never successfully used mRNA vaccines in humans before. Lots of things seem like good ideas and don't turn out to be. Time will tell.

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Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: Coronavirus
« on: August 21, 2021, 12:20:52 PM »
Not going to take the vaccine because who knows what’s in it!

Yep this is where I lost my interest in the “I’m just waiting it out crowd”.  No they weren’t.  They jump at all kinds of questionable bull#$#%.  Hydroxychloroquin, Ivermectin, Metformin (but won’t take it for diabetes) and a half dozen other nonsense “it treats cytokine storm” crap
I really don't understand the rationale in taking a drug (any drug, apparently) but not taking a vaccine.

Well, let's see...ivermectin has been used in humans (and animals) for over 30 years, has an amazing safety record, is considered an essential medicine by the WHO. It shows anti-viral properties in vitro. Human studies for covid have shown positive benefits in almost every study. Yes, the studies are generally small and not RCT. I know quite a number of people who have been using it for months for covid prophylaxis (many use the horse paste) with no ill effects. I also know people who've gotten severe cases of covid despite using it.

The vaccines...new technology that was rushed into use via EUA, the first in-human tests started a little over a year ago so there is no long term safety data, lots of people have had serious adverse events, vaccines seem to be far less effective against covid infection than expected (and decreasing over time).

Yeah...I can easily see why some people opt out of the vaccines.

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Montreal: still sucks but still managed to beat the Leafs and make it to the finals. Losing Danault might be a biggie for them, though.

Toronto: Lost heart and soul 20+ goal scorer Zach Hyman, replaced with...Michael Bunting? Goaltending probably a wash.

Feels like if you're going to bring up the playoffs loss as particularly relevant it's important to note Montreal probably won't have Weber while the Leafs will have Tavares in all likelihood. That seems more important than, say, Hyman's heart and souling all of one goal in 7 games.

The heart and soul guy with 5 goals in 32 playoff games and 5 points in 19 games over the last three seasons.  This playoff series against Montreal really left me looking at Hyman quite confused.  Danault was glued to Matthews.  The rest of the Canadiens were shading Marner to take away his passing opportunities.  Hyman wasn't generating space for Matthews/Marner...he was the one getting it and did nothing with those opportunities.

He's still a good player that we lost but the team isn't necessarily worse off in the long-run...especially at this cap hit.  I'm still worried about the lack of depth scoring with this lineup.

To be fair, he was playing on one leg in the last Boston series, and this year he was out with a knee injury only returning for game 1 of the playoffs. One thing I did notice about him in the series against Montreal, he seemed to be trying to do too much himself. Matthews and Marner may have been covered so Hyman tried to always take the puck himself, often behind the net, trying to make a play but being unable to. Could have been his timing wasn't back yet, but it was quite noticeable.


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Let's take a look at our primary competition going into this season and what their offseasons have looked like so far

Tampa: Lost their entire '3rd' line, and Tyler Johnson; Stamkos might be a shell of himself. But they got Bogosian, they play like an extremely well-oiled machine and still have Kuch, Point, Vasilevskiy, Hedman. Tough out always, but took a sizable step back.

Boston: Added Foligno, retained Hall, nice pickup in Reilly. Lost both their goalies though (Rask is injured).

Montreal: still sucks

Florida: up and coming; Ekblad being healthy will make them extra tough to play. Their goaltending is a big question mark riding on Spencer Knight's emergence or Bob's bounceback if possible.

Ottawa: who cares, we'll lose to them either way

Buffalo: lol

You forgot a couple:

Montreal: still sucks but still managed to beat the Leafs and make it to the finals. Losing Danault might be a biggie for them, though.

Toronto: Lost heart and soul 20+ goal scorer Zach Hyman, replaced with...Michael Bunting? Goaltending probably a wash.

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Here's where I'm at with the Leafs. I'm disappointed that a rebuild that looked so promising seems to have stalled. Some of that is just bad luck (pandemic and resulting flat cap). However, some of it also has to be put on management for signing those contracts that have helped put us in this position. And also for letting so much talent walk away for nothing over the years. The early playoff runs were nice, but it led to the rebuild being sped up - bad trades for rentals, holding onto assets that should have been traded. And there don't seem to have been any lessons learned by the core from those first couple of playoff rounds, otherwise they'd have advanced out of the first round by now.

I'm disappointed that we had to sacrifice some good young talent and replace it with lesser talent. Connor Brown - hard working, tough to play against, capable of 20 goals. Kapanen, had issues but boy was he fun to watch. At least he could bury some of those breakaway chances (ahem, Mikheyev). Johnsson I think was a flash in the pan and injury prone, but another guy who was tough to play against and has scored 20 goals in the league. And now to top it all off, Hyman gone for nothing.

On the plus side, the defense has definitely improved over the past couple of seasons. If the core players ever figure out what they need to do in the playoffs, this team could be a threat. But I've gotta say, after watching some of the playoffs this year, I don't think the Leafs are in the same league as some of those teams (Montreal aside). They also don't have much room for error, as we saw this year when Tavares went down. That's where the lack of some of those depth scorers is really felt.

And will they let Rielly walk? Will they be able to re-sign him? After seeing some of the contracts handed out yesterday, I'm not sure they'll be able to afford him. No one seems willing to take much of a home-town discount anymore. I thought Hyman might be the one but was obviously wrong about that. Will Rielly be the one? Maybe?

Based on where the team is at right now, I expect a regression this year in a tough division where even making the playoffs will be difficult. Maybe some regular season adversity will actually be good for this group. We'll see.



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Don't know much about the various players signed today, but it sure feels like treading water at best. The loss of Hyman does not appear to have been addressed - so unless someone like Robertson steps up in a big way, I can't see how the team is better than last year. Can any of the signed players even replace what Galchenyuk brought to the lineup?  Will one of the young defensemen contribute as much as Bogosian did? Guess we'll find out.

Gonna be a battle just to get in the playoffs considering the division the Leafs are in. I don't know, it feels like a season of disappointment ahead. Punctuated most likely by Rielly walking away in free agency for no return.

Yeah, I guess I'm in kind of a negative place regarding the Leafs.

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Ho-Sang is a very intriguing value bet. Worst case scenario on a cheap, two-way contract? He only suits up for the Marlies. Worth the gamble, if it happens.

Agree. If he puts in the effort to address weak parts of his game (like Galchenyuk) this could be quite a good acquisition. If not, he spends a season with the Marlies. Remember seeing him play for the Islanders a few years ago and thinking he had tremendous talent and potential. Maybe the Leafs can tap some of that.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Resigning Zach Hyman?
« on: July 25, 2021, 01:58:17 PM »
Looks like no return for Hyman and he will sign a 7-year deal once free agency comes around.  Dubas reportedly turned down a 6th round pick for his rights

What am I missing here?  Unless Dubas thinks he still has a chance of re-signing Hyman between now and Wednesday, why not basically take whatever you can get for a guy you are going to lose.

Edmonton is no longer in the Leafs' division and they'll be in the other conference, so it's not like he has to worry about Hyman coming back to bite them or something.  Who cares if they give him 8 years and/or it lowers the cap hit on him.  Not like it affects the Leafs one iota.
It affects everyone regardless of divisions. It takes money away from Edm who may be competing against the Leafs for a player in free agency. Every dollar counts.

The Leafs could also draft the next Mark Stone with the 6th rounder.

Every dollar, asset and pick counts.

They could also just sift through the remaining undrafted players and find the next Mark Stone. How much more likely is that to happen with a 6th round pick? Probably not much.

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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Resigning Zach Hyman?
« on: July 24, 2021, 04:07:17 PM »
1) I'm OK with Dubas if he refuses the 6th rounder for the extra year on Hyman. As we've seen with the Leafs this year, every dollar saved contracts can be important (maybe he learned that lesson after signing that Marner deal). So if the Oilers want it, they should pay something more than a 6th.

2) Regarding the expansion draft, I'm also OK with protecting Holl and losing McCann. The Leafs only lost Hallander in the draft since McCann was never "really" on the team (McCann wouldn't have been available at that price if Pitt wasn't going to lose him). I think I would have preferred if Seattle took Kerfoot for a variety of reasons (McCann cheaper, younger, better goal scorer) but Kerfoot could still be moved if necessary. And he was good in the playoffs.

3) For the upcoming season I really hope the Leafs try spreading out the talent to 3 lines. We've got 4 guys who should be capable of elevating their linemates. Give that a shot and see what happens. I don't know which duo stays intact. Maybe give Matthews his own 1st line, put Marner and Tavares on line 2, and Nylander on line 3 and go from there. Kerfoot (if he stays) goes with either Matthews or Nylander. Galchenyuk and Robertson can fight for another spot.

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Leafs Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2021-2022: Catharsis
« on: June 03, 2021, 02:35:46 PM »
I'm just so frustrated with how this group fast tracked the rebuild in every way they possibly could rather than making prudent long term moves. They kept talking about wanting to compete year in year out. Is that really sustainable with the Big 4 + whatever scrubs? Where's our Cale Makar? Where's our Sam Girard? Where's our Bowen Byram? I'm so tired of assets going out and not recouping anything back.

JVR, Bozak, Gardiner, Komarov, Andersen, Barrie, Kadri (in a weird way because Barrie is gone and Kerfoot may also be gone) bad use of picks in Rittich, Foligno, Boyle, Plekanec, bad signing in Marleau that cost us picks to get out of... like what is going on here? We can't remain competitive if the only time we're making trades for assets coming in is when our cap hand is forced and we trade Kapanen or Johnsson or Brown. I really think this is starting to look like mismanagement. We have no draft picks and nothing internally because of a terrible drafting record for the most part. We could see the best years of this core wasted and they could leave in free agency in a couple of years. Then what? This is just so baffling.

I don't know about this part. A lot of experts think the Leafs have actually drafted quite well since Dubas took full control and the pipeline is generally well regarded. His picks might not be hammering down the door to get to the NHL, but to say the team has nothing internally because of a terrible drafting record doesn't land in the same way it did a few years ago. And, while it certainly appears as though there's not much on the cusp of cracking the roster, with prospects, you never really know. There are guys who could show up to camp in the fall and force their way on to the roster. There might not be any elite, 1st line types - though, the team doesn't really need that right now - but there could certainly be some solid middle six forwards, 2nd pairing dmen, etc. that breakthrough in the next couple years.

Need to give them roles and let them grow into them, whether it's 3rd line or 4th line or maybe (Robertson e.g.) something higher up. If Dubas keeps providing Keefe with "safe" option vets like Thornton, Simmonds, Vesey etc then you know what happens...those young players get into a game once in a while on the 4th line for 5 minutes. Then come playoff time the player isn't ready and/or you don't know what you might have. Brooks is a good example, if he was playing most of the season he might be able to make a bigger impact in the playoffs.

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Leafs Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM 2021-2022: Catharsis
« on: June 02, 2021, 04:02:06 PM »
How many points would Marner get if he wasn't playing with a Matthews or Tavares? Can he drive his own line and significantly elevate lesser players? What if you put him with Engvall and Mikheyev. Matthews would probably still score 40 playing with them. Would Marner still get 90 points?  80? 40?

An almost $11 million player should be able to produce without being tethered to a Matthews or Tavares. Could Marner do that? This is all hypothetical of course since the team was built to take advantage of the pairs (M&M and JT/WN).

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I could see moving Rielly if the return was decent. Then put Sandin and Lily in the lineup and let them play so they're ready for the playoffs.

I like Mikheyev, he's cheap, fast, very good defensively. Does he still have another level he can reach on offense? Is his wrist still an issue? Very similar story with Engvall. Is he a center or a winger? If he's a center maybe Kerfoot is expendable. Or is Kerfoot the guy who should play LW on line 2.

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