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Toronto Blue Jays / Re: 2023 Blue Jays thread
October 05, 2023, 10:20:27 AM
Quote from: Frank E on October 05, 2023, 10:17:34 AMThe rotation of pitchers wasn't the problem.  The Blue Jays didn't hit the baseball enough times, so they lost.

This is also fact
Toronto Blue Jays / Re: 2023 Blue Jays thread
October 05, 2023, 10:19:40 AM
Quote from: OldTimeHockey on October 05, 2023, 10:15:38 AMIf one of your starters is only reliable the first time through the line up, then you actually don't have a "starter".

Exactly, I'm not sure how this plan makes any sense. And why was this never once utilized in the regular season or during another "must win game"? Why were the starters sometimes pulled early and sometimes left in much longer? And how could a team possibly make it to the World Series if you were to use your bullpen every time this situation arose? The arms would all be dead! And you'd also have a much worse potential matchup later in the games with an overused reliever. I'm so confused.
Quote from: Frank E on October 05, 2023, 09:31:57 AMIt's preseason...I know...but how does Domi-Tavares-Nylander make any sense?

I'd think switch Jarnkrok and Nylander?

Yea, it's a defensively horrific line.

And is it me or is the preseason 16x longer this year?
Toronto Blue Jays / Re: 2023 Blue Jays thread
October 05, 2023, 10:12:49 AM
Quote from: Arn on October 05, 2023, 08:17:39 AM
Quote from: OldTimeHockey on October 05, 2023, 05:30:56 AMNote: John Schneider's decision to pull Berrios in the bottom of the 4th is an absolute headscratcher.

Everything I'm reading seems to suggest this was a pre-planned move agreed with the wider management group based on data.

Now, I'm all for using data to help. But you know, I was watching the game and could see how Berios looked as well...

Yea, I mean I always cringe when I hear the term "Analytics" negatively thrown around and mocked by people who don't understand that it's basically just the idea of looking at more, in-depth information. You should always want to have more than less information. It's the interpretation and utilization of that information that's the problem. If the data says that the more a pitcher goes through a lineup the more susceptible he becomes, that is good information to have and you can act on it accordingly. It absolutely never means take out a pitcher who is dialed in and mowing through batters after 47 pitchers because its the 2nd time facing a lefthanded batter.
Toronto Blue Jays / Re: 2023 Blue Jays thread
October 04, 2023, 10:27:18 AM
It's such a weird team to watch. The pitching staff is great and the lineup is actually quite good; it's just so frustrating to watch them look lost at the plate and seemingly have no offensive plan. Vladdy and Kirk have been playing WAY below their capabilities offensively and everyone has lost their power. It's very odd. I can't remember being this frustrated at a team and I've watched some pretty awful Jays teams..
Quote from: azzurri63 on June 30, 2023, 11:31:45 AMSounds like Nylander's negotiations aren't going well. Ship his as* to Arizona and scoop Keller who wants out and you have some extra cash to spend. Change the complexion of this team it's definitely needed.

Yea, that should change that darn complex issue of Nylander scoring big goals and producing in the playoffs..(FTR Keller would be great, but he isn't any bigger than Nylander and doesn't hit either).

On a related note, I keep hearing about the need to trade Nylander before his NTC kicks in and limits potential landing spots: wouldn't trading him now to a non-preferred destination only result in him not signing an extension and thus drastically affecting his trade value? It seems to me they can wait for a bit, regardless of his NTC, because if he isn't re-signing here at least he can go somewhere he wants to go, sign an extension and still recoup a significant amount in return, no?

you know...there really should be some kind of recourse for "insiders" who just flippantly float out garbage like this. Granted Berger is as much as an insider as I am a member of the core 4, but it's so tiring and cringe-inducing. Not to mention the sheep who flock to this kind of nonsense (see what I did there?) and perpetuate these meaningless talking points. No wonder everyone hates this general fanbase.
1. The person an employer is negotiating with for a contract extension suddenly questions if he wants the job and when pressed further ultimately ask for significantly more money with a promotion that would supplant the job of the employer's negotiator, who is supposed to approve and submit the request. The employer rescinds the extension offer and looks at different candidates. Sounds fairly reasonable to me.

2. The context by which you used "good ol boy" characters the hiring, and Treliving, in a negative light. Other than the lack of an "exhaustive search" (and, I guess, the fact that Treliving's father isn't a loner with less effluent friends), I don't see what it is about Treliving's track record that makes him that much of a worse candidate than Dubas or a "musical chair" hiring, for that matter. Treliving has had exactly one stint in the GM position and was fairly successful (arguably no less successful than our outgoing GM, who, apparently, was also a musical chair hire, considering how quickly the Pens' process was done and him having the same amount of GM'ing experience as Treliving).

Anyway I'm not trying to get into a big thing here, I just don't see why there has to be two distinctive sides. The Leafs acted in a reasonable manner and got a pretty good GM under somewhat serious time constraints. They also had a pretty good-good GM that I would also have liked to see return who acted reasonably and in his best interests. And when Treliving trades Nylander straight up for Josh Manson and signs Tom Wilson to a 7x7 contract, I am going to delete these posts and call for Shanahan's head to be served on a platter like a Yusei Kikuchi centre-cut fastball! ;)
Maybe I'm naïve or missing something here but I'm still not sure how the Leafs "fumbled the bag" and why Treliving simply qualifies as a "good ol boy"? Personally I have no issues with how either party (Dubas, Leafs) went about their business and am a little baffled about the levels of divisiveness on display (all around, not just on here).......and this is coming from someone who isn't exactly a Shanahan fan and is, exactly, a big Dubas supporter.
Quote from: Guilt Trip on May 19, 2023, 02:42:01 PM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on May 19, 2023, 01:57:57 PMGM: Laurence Gilman, with Mike Gillis in some supporting role
Coach: Andrew Brunette
Which Core 4 to sacrifice on the altar of doing something: Marner
His trade return: Kempe/Byfield



Like the way you think.

Yea, very nice roster. And McMann, Steeves and Robertson challenging for spots. Love it.
Quote from: herman on May 20, 2023, 02:00:09 PMAre these serious suggestions for the coach that not only helped cover up sexual abuse, but wrote a glowing reference for the perpetrator to go on and do it again to another kid?

Don't worry, he is expected to meet with Bettman soon so I'm pretty sure that, as a result from that single meeting, Quenneville will be absolved from all prior misdeeds and welcomed back into the NHL with open arms. It's not like he declined to wear a pride jersey, or anything that extreme!
Man, I really would have loved to have seen what a full-autonomous Dubas squad could have looked like. Too bad. Anyway, I just hope the next GM doesn't get sucked into the frat-boy, old-guard, chest-pounding, self-proclaimed alpha bullpoop rhetoric that much of the rabid fan base seems to eat up so much. And I thought I was somewhat apathetic this season.. :(
Quote from: azzurri63 on April 28, 2023, 10:34:13 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 28, 2023, 09:49:31 AMBoy, I miss when this team used to have speed..

I think the backend is the problem. Too slow moving the puck and when pressured. Holl, Schenn, Giordano and even Brodie aren't the quickest.

Yes, I agree; the lack of footspeed and puck-moving capability back there, particularly from those first three, has really been noticeable (and exploited).
Quote from: Zee on April 28, 2023, 08:26:08 AM
Quote from: AtomicMapleLeaf on April 28, 2023, 12:31:18 AM
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on April 27, 2023, 10:55:46 PMBunting can draw in for Lafferty.

May not be popular, but I would draw in Bunting for Knies.

I think the Leafs need to pull out their 11/7 they were using so much down the stretch.  Get Lilejegren in there and limit Holl's minutes.

I agree with that but add that I wouldn't mind seeing Gustafsson come in as the 7th and Liljegren in for Holl. Gus can spell Gio for a bit and give us another strong PP option.