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Re: Armchair GM 2021-2022: Catharsis
« Reply #225 on: July 22, 2021, 09:10:03 PM »
Would you, for 1.2M

I mean as a sheltered 3rd pairing guy I think he’s adequate but as much as we are bargain basement diving to finalize the roster I’d rather not revisit that

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Re: Armchair GM 2021-2022: Catharsis
« Reply #226 on: July 23, 2021, 12:22:11 PM »
https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/seravalli-ice-breakers-rangers-the-team-to-watch-as-nhl-trade-freeze-lifts/

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The Rangers have attempted to move arbitration-eligible RFA Pavel Buchnevich for weeks now.

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« Reply #227 on: July 26, 2021, 01:05:17 PM »
I was reading that there were rumblings of Stamkos being moved out of Tampa.

Not saying that it would ever happen, but how would people feel if he was move for Marner or Nylander?  Sideways move, or does it make the team better?  Does having three centers of that calibre lead to success for the Leafs, or do they still end up with depth problems?
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« Reply #228 on: July 26, 2021, 01:16:56 PM »
I was reading that there were rumblings of Stamkos being moved out of Tampa.

Not saying that it would ever happen, but how would people feel if he was move for Marner or Nylander?  Sideways move, or does it make the team better?  Does having three centers of that calibre lead to success for the Leafs, or do they still end up with depth problems?

I think that closes the contention window to one year. Marner/Nylander still have growth paths in an upward trajectory. His injury history has rendered Stamkos no longer an option at centre (and really, Tavares might be on that same path in 2-3 years).
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Re: Armchair GM 2021-2022: Catharsis
« Reply #229 on: July 28, 2021, 01:56:09 AM »
RYAN DONATO, MATTIAS JANMARK, MARK PYSYK, ERIK GUDBRANSON, ROBERT BORTUZZO, CÉDRIC PAQUETTE, RYAN MURRAY, BRENDAN SMITH, CODY CECI, DEREK STEPAN might be the type of players TO is really interested in. The press like to link TO to everyone that's sexy, personally I can hardly wait till TO signs Landeskog and Hamilton because it must be precap days like the press thinks it is.

None of the players I've mentioned are high profile and most are on the decline but I think they all would provide greater value than Ho-Sang and Galchenyk, Galy's ill advised pass that cost TO the game is the type of game/brain fart I'd expect from either of those 2.

Actually I don't expect TO to do anything tomorrow, mostly TO will probably look for value after the first day of FA.

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« Reply #230 on: July 28, 2021, 08:48:11 AM »
Pysyk might be a decent depth signing that would come cheap.

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« Reply #231 on: August 03, 2021, 03:22:20 PM »
This is an old-ish note about Rielly and the Leafs
https://theathletic.com/2669207/2021/06/23/lebrun-which-defencemen-could-change-addresses-or-stay-put-this-upcoming-offseason/

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The Leafs and Rielly’s camp, led by Barry, had a nice season-exit chat, I hear, but the real conversation is going to wait. My sense is while the Leafs absolutely want to try and extend Rielly this offseason — he’s got one year left on his deal — that negotiation is going to wait until August after the July fireworks are done. Which will give Leafs management a better idea after they’ve made other moves, and seen the NHL landscape, to know what they can do with Rielly.

But it’s always going to come down to one thing: Yes, Rielly loves being a Maple Leaf and would take a bit less to remain one. But the dollar figures have to make sense. He’s earning $5 million a year. He’s worth at least the $6.5 million AAV Torey Krug got in St. Louis last fall, if not more, depending on term.

Kyle Dubas seemed much more at ease discussing Zach Hyman and Frederik Andersen play out their deals before free agency when I asked him about it on a season-ending media call. It was clear, however, Dubas wasn’t that comfortable doing that this time with Rielly. Either he’s signed this summer, or there’s probably a trade. Personally, I think the Leafs find a way to extend Rielly.

Y'all saw the defense FA market last week. It just got extremely stupid.
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Re: Armchair GM 2021-2022: Catharsis
« Reply #232 on: August 03, 2021, 03:37:36 PM »
The Krug comparison makes sense. Not sure where they'll find another $1.5M, unless they replace Kerfoot with Robertson or something like that.

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Re: Armchair GM 2021-2022: Catharsis
« Reply #233 on: August 03, 2021, 03:41:51 PM »
The Krug comparison makes sense. Not sure where they'll find another $1.5M, unless they replace Kerfoot with Robertson or something like that.

Kerfoot's a goner next summer I think. That's partially why I'm really hoping he gets glued to one of the top lines. Try to pump up his value as much as possible and he could be an appealing asset with 1-year left on his contract and only a $750,000 salary (assuming he gets dealt after the Leafs pay his $1.95mil signing bonus).

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« Reply #234 on: August 03, 2021, 04:10:21 PM »
Unless the cap keeps going up we are just going to keep shedding players.

Next season it's Rielly, Sandin and Campbell  (and Mikheyev/Spezza) who need new contracts.  As it stands right now that's a 9F, 4D, 1G roster with 13.7M in cap space left.

Campbell - 2.5M, Rielly 6.5, Sandin 2M = 11.0 - leaving 2.7 million for 3 forwards.   And that's a barebones roster.

Then the following year its Holl and Dermott.

The year after that is Nylander/Matthews.

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« Reply #235 on: August 03, 2021, 04:28:33 PM »
I wonder how much Rielly's offence slightly drying up is going to affect his contract. Krug at $6.5mil seems like a reasonable comparison but he was coming off 3 straight seasons where he was pretty much consistently at the 65-point pace level. He was 6th among defencemen in points in that 3 season stretch and 5th in points per game. He was one of the top offensive defencemen in the game.

Rielly followed up his massive 18/19 season with a 47-point pace season and then a 52-point pace season. He's 9th in points and points per game over the last 3 years but that's largely based off that 18/19 season. Over the past 2 seasons he's tied for 27th in points and tied for 19th in points per game. And considering the team seem to be moving towards having Sandin run the top PP unit I wouldn't be that surprised if he fell below the 50-point mark again this upcoming season.

So I don't doubt that Rielly will be looking for big bucks on his next contract but his offensive numbers are dropping to the point where he's not among the highest scoring defencemen anymore, he plays big 5-on-5 minutes but hasn't been handling the toughest defensive assignments for a little while now, he might dropped to the second powerplay unit, and he only PKs when another defenceman is in the penalty box. I love Rielly and all but looking at this logically unless he has an absolutely monster 21/22 season I'm not even really sure how you justify giving him more than what Muzzin got on his extension.

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« Reply #236 on: August 03, 2021, 04:31:21 PM »
Unless the cap keeps going up we are just going to keep shedding players.

Next season it's Rielly, Sandin and Campbell  (and Mikheyev/Spezza) who need new contracts.  As it stands right now that's a 9F, 4D, 1G roster with 13.7M in cap space left.

Campbell - 2.5M, Rielly 6.5, Sandin 2M = 11.0 - leaving 2.7 million for 3 forwards.   And that's a barebones roster.

Then the following year its Holl and Dermott.

The year after that is Nylander/Matthews.

Imagine what the team could look like with the extra $10mil they'd probably have in cap space if it wasn't for the pandemic.

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Re: Armchair GM 2021-2022: Catharsis
« Reply #237 on: August 03, 2021, 08:29:36 PM »
Unless the cap keeps going up we are just going to keep shedding players.

Next season it's Rielly, Sandin and Campbell  (and Mikheyev/Spezza) who need new contracts.  As it stands right now that's a 9F, 4D, 1G roster with 13.7M in cap space left.

Campbell - 2.5M, Rielly 6.5, Sandin 2M = 11.0 - leaving 2.7 million for 3 forwards.   And that's a barebones roster.

Then the following year its Holl and Dermott.

The year after that is Nylander/Matthews.

Imagine what the team could look like with the extra $10mil they'd probably have in cap space if it wasn't for the pandemic.
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