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Re: Canadiens @ Leafs - May. 6th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #105 on: May 07, 2021, 11:38:34 AM »
Meh. I choose optimism.

Which is fine.   I feel there are people out there that feel that just because they are optimistic about something, that it becomes a 100% lock to happen, and then the disappointment sets in when it doesn't and that disappointment is higher when the expectations don't match the outcome.  It's something that I find funny about sports, like there is some sort of confirmation happening with the wins and loses.

If you team is good, well then they are 100% going to win, even though you still have to play the games, so when the team loses, that becomes unfathomable, even though there is tons of historical precedent that shows that nothing in sports is ever guaranteed.

For me personally, this is how I view the Leafs.  I am encouraged by their season.  They seem to have gotten an handle on a lot of the things that have bitten them in years past.  They seem to be able to play a patient game and let the game come to them, rather than getting frazzled when they aren't able to dictate the terms of play.  That is all good.

However, it all resets when the playoffs start.  Even if the Leafs had this proven playoff track record, which they certainly don't, I am always leery going into a series because all it takes is for a player on the other team to get hot in a way where the opposing team just doesn't have an answer for them, and suddenly things go off the rails quickly.

It's one of the things that I find interesting about hockey as a sport.  A team can be successful around one player for short bursts provided that player is capable of being the most dominate player on the ice, but then there is also this team aspect to the game where a really solid team, with good to great talent sprinkled throughout the lineup, can accomplish things as well. 
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Re: Canadiens @ Leafs - May. 6th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #106 on: May 07, 2021, 12:23:49 PM »
Meh. I choose optimism.

Which is fine.   I feel there are people out there that feel that just because they are optimistic about something, that it becomes a 100% lock to happen, and then the disappointment sets in when it doesn't and that disappointment is higher when the expectations don't match the outcome.  It's something that I find funny about sports, like there is some sort of confirmation happening with the wins and loses.

If you team is good, well then they are 100% going to win, even though you still have to play the games, so when the team loses, that becomes unfathomable, even though there is tons of historical precedent that shows that nothing in sports is ever guaranteed.

For me personally, this is how I view the Leafs.  I am encouraged by their season.  They seem to have gotten an handle on a lot of the things that have bitten them in years past.  They seem to be able to play a patient game and let the game come to them, rather than getting frazzled when they aren't able to dictate the terms of play.  That is all good.

However, it all resets when the playoffs start.  Even if the Leafs had this proven playoff track record, which they certainly don't, I am always leery going into a series because all it takes is for a player on the other team to get hot in a way where the opposing team just doesn't have an answer for them, and suddenly things go off the rails quickly.

It's one of the things that I find interesting about hockey as a sport.  A team can be successful around one player for short bursts provided that player is capable of being the most dominate player on the ice, but then there is also this team aspect to the game where a really solid team, with good to great talent sprinkled throughout the lineup, can accomplish things as well.

It gives people a false sense of control.  We have absolutely no control over the outcome of a hockey game sitting on our couches.  Our opinions, thoughts and prognosticating are just that, and have no bearing on the outcome of a sports teams fortunes.  Fans of sports teams attach their sense of identity to a sports team, and think their favorite sports team's eventual winning or losing dictates how they should feel.  Team wins I feel good, team loses I feel bad.  That's what sports fans are ultimately falsely attributing to a sports team, the ability for a team to make you happy or sad.  Being optimistic is better than being pessimistic but it's still and attempt to control some future event, such as a team winning or losing, so you can feel better about yourself.

All the talking that goes on about sports, all the message boards, radio call in shows or whatever,  is mostly just mental masturbation.  That's what my former username on this board alluded to "Guru TugginMyPuddah". 

I was so attached to the outcome of the Leafs fortunes that it had a terrible affect on my mental well being.  After much introspection I learned that I can be a fan of the Leafs, enjoy the games and even enjoy the banter back and forth on this board, and not be attached to any particular outcome.  That non-attachment has allowed me to enjoy being a Leafs again, and be sane. 



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Re: Canadiens @ Leafs - May. 6th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #107 on: May 07, 2021, 12:42:23 PM »
I was so attached to the outcome of the Leafs fortunes that it had a terrible affect on my mental well being.  After much introspection I learned that I can be a fan of the Leafs, enjoy the games and even enjoy the banter back and forth on this board, and not be attached to any particular outcome.  That non-attachment has allowed me to enjoy being a Leafs again, and be sane. 
I want the Leafs to win as bad as anyone here but it won't change my summer if they do or don't. The games are way more enjoyable this way.

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Re: Canadiens @ Leafs - May. 6th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #108 on: May 07, 2021, 12:57:20 PM »
Meh. I choose optimism.

Which is fine.   I feel there are people out there that feel that just because they are optimistic about something, that it becomes a 100% lock to happen, and then the disappointment sets in when it doesn't and that disappointment is higher when the expectations don't match the outcome.  It's something that I find funny about sports, like there is some sort of confirmation happening with the wins and loses.

If you team is good, well then they are 100% going to win, even though you still have to play the games, so when the team loses, that becomes unfathomable, even though there is tons of historical precedent that shows that nothing in sports is ever guaranteed.

For me personally, this is how I view the Leafs.  I am encouraged by their season.  They seem to have gotten an handle on a lot of the things that have bitten them in years past.  They seem to be able to play a patient game and let the game come to them, rather than getting frazzled when they aren't able to dictate the terms of play.  That is all good.

However, it all resets when the playoffs start.  Even if the Leafs had this proven playoff track record, which they certainly don't, I am always leery going into a series because all it takes is for a player on the other team to get hot in a way where the opposing team just doesn't have an answer for them, and suddenly things go off the rails quickly.

It's one of the things that I find interesting about hockey as a sport.  A team can be successful around one player for short bursts provided that player is capable of being the most dominate player on the ice, but then there is also this team aspect to the game where a really solid team, with good to great talent sprinkled throughout the lineup, can accomplish things as well.

It gives people a false sense of control.  We have absolutely no control over the outcome of a hockey game sitting on our couches.  Our opinions, thoughts and prognosticating are just that, and have no bearing on the outcome of a sports teams fortunes.  Fans of sports teams attach their sense of identity to a sports team, and think their favorite sports team's eventual winning or losing dictates how they should feel.  Team wins I feel good, team loses I feel bad.  That's what sports fans are ultimately falsely attributing to a sports team, the ability for a team to make you happy or sad.  Being optimistic is better than being pessimistic but it's still and attempt to control some future event, such as a team winning or losing, so you can feel better about yourself.

All the talking that goes on about sports, all the message boards, radio call in shows or whatever,  is mostly just mental masturbation.  That's what my former username on this board alluded to "Guru TugginMyPuddah". 

I was so attached to the outcome of the Leafs fortunes that it had a terrible affect on my mental well being.  After much introspection I learned that I can be a fan of the Leafs, enjoy the games and even enjoy the banter back and forth on this board, and not be attached to any particular outcome.  That non-attachment has allowed me to enjoy being a Leafs again, and be sane.

Yeah, I've really worked on this as well.  When I was younger I was one of those guys who would yell at the team and be in a bad mood if the Leafs lost.  I feel that my own competitiveness sort of bled through in these situations.  I still can lose it a little bit with some of the embarrassing things that happen, like blowing a 4 goal lead with ten minutes to go in game 7, or blowing a lead and losing that game while the other team had to use an EBUG, but even there I try and check myself and say that those things don't really affect who I am as a person.  An embarrassing thing happened to a team that I choose cheer for.  That's really all that happened.

I feel like this board is my LFA (akin to AA) group in that regard.  Leafs lose, I come here, look at what others are posting, realize I'm not the only fan of this team, and therefore not alone and then move on.  The entertainment value of any sport is watching what unfolds whether it goes for you or against you. 

Ultimately, I would like to see them win a cup, just to see what that feels like.  To see what happens when the Leafs win it all.  I experienced it with the Blue Jays, and I have experienced it with the Raptors, but I feel it would be a different feeling if it happens for the Leafs. 
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Re: Canadiens @ Leafs - May. 6th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #109 on: May 07, 2021, 04:26:02 PM »
Excellent attitudes and approaches.

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« Reply #110 on: May 08, 2021, 11:27:51 AM »
its not the destination, but the journey.
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