They played that 2 on 2 so badly. Some things never change.

Gio played that bad but whatever...pre season

Why do you start new topics about whatever rant you feel like having all the time?

Entitled 😂...just ignore the bs

I'm asking this genuinely. Can anyone give an example of a player, after 7 years in the NHL made the transition to a full time centre after never playing that position with any regularity?

Nylander was drafted as a centre. I don't know the accuracy but I read that Giroux, Zetterberg, Messier were all drafted as wingers...
Anyway it will be a challenge for Willy but he's played the position before. Hey Red Kelly went from D to centre...

I just don't get, after the issues you had in your prior job, then sitting without a similar role for 3 years, why you would do ANYTHING that could even be seen as slightly questionable or even open to being misconstrued in the slightest.

You'd be going out to be cleaner than clean, surely.

Babs never thought he did anything wrong and has never apologized. Even in this case...nothing in his statement.  A terrible human

Zero issue with what Biz said.

This story still seems to me to be blown out of proportion more than it needs to be.

I don't see the harm asking the players to see photos of their family as a means to get to know them on a personable level.

Now, if he asked them to hand over their phone and he was scrolling through the pics at his discretion, then yeah, that is creepy.  No guy wants someone else looking at their phone (particularly their wife or significant other haha).

As mentioned above, if this was Dubas he'd be considered a saint being so personable.  But it being Babcock, who is known to be an unsympathetic jerk, he will not be given any benefit of the doubt.  Even still, I think this is relatively harmless, provided he's not scrolling through and stumbling across a bunch of inappropriate private photos.

Totally disagree. You don't need to see my PERSONAL pics to get to know me. It's one thing for a player to volunteer them and another to ask to see them. And asking a  player who doesn't want to share puts them in a very awkward position seeing they will most likely feel pressure to show them because of Babs' power. Add in It's creepy.
There's a reason they're expanding the investigation.

Does a teacher who asks their students to bring in photos of their family for a family tree or a timeline cross the line?

If someone who I'm chatting with, whether I know them or barely do says, "You have three kids...you're busy and blessed...do you mind sharing a photo of them so I can see what they look like?", I don't take it as anything more than curiosity and happily oblige. 

Now, if someone says, "You have a teenage daughter eh...would love to see a picture of her," then I'd take that as downright creepy.

Who the heck knows where this story falls.  I'd like to think Babcock is not stupid to have this be anything more than genuine interest in getting to know a player on a personal level.  Since this was done with every player, I also don't feel he was picking on or isolating certain players, nor made it an attempt to stumble on scandalous or nude photos or something.

Babs is an idiot and like O Dog said, it's so he can have something on everyone. This getting to know you garbage  is pure bull#$#%.
So someone you barely knows asks to see pics of your kids and you think that's ok? Sorry that's creepy. I've never ever met anyone who's asked that isn't a close personal friend and that is beyond rare because you typically volunteer pics with your closest friends. Now you wanna, see my dog.
As for a teacher asking. If there's no note going home outlining the project, yes it's over the line. Chances are though the teacher will send something home to inform the parents, who ultimately have the final say.

It's been said many many times...Babs is a great coach but a horrible human. My guess is CBJ thought he'd learned his lesson but apparently not. Modano, Franzen, Spezza, Marner and now this will be all that most remember about him...and you know there's so many more.

Thought this tweet/info from Jack Han is also worth mentioning:

https://twitter.com/JhanHky/status/1701669871547765070

It says a lot about how garbage spittin chiclets is that they could find a story to bash Mike Babcock of all people where they end up looking like the toxic ones.

Thoughts?

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1703504331205419231

This story still seems to me to be blown out of proportion more than it needs to be.

I don't see the harm asking the players to see photos of their family as a means to get to know them on a personable level.

Now, if he asked them to hand over their phone and he was scrolling through the pics at his discretion, then yeah, that is creepy.  No guy wants someone else looking at their phone (particularly their wife or significant other haha).

As mentioned above, if this was Dubas he'd be considered a saint being so personable.  But it being Babcock, who is known to be an unsympathetic jerk, he will not be given any benefit of the doubt.  Even still, I think this is relatively harmless, provided he's not scrolling through and stumbling across a bunch of inappropriate private photos.

Totally disagree. You don't need to see my PERSONAL pics to get to know me. It's one thing for a player to volunteer them and another to ask to see them. And asking a  player who doesn't want to share puts them in a very awkward position seeing they will most likely feel pressure to show them because of Babs' power. Add in It's creepy.
There's a reason they're expanding the investigation.

"A member of the team" sent me a text, so it must be true.

I certainly hope he's not depicting that it's true based on a text from one player.

That text doesn't seem like it's coming from a member of the Blue Jackets, "He's doing it to guys in Columbus now same shit he did to me - guys need to know that's coming" -- Seems to imply it happened to the texter previously. The whole thing seems bogus.
 

So Leafs or Wings player. The whole picture time thing is weird to me.

https://twitter.com/BizNasty2point0/status/1701718602972541296

Tough read. True warrior. RIP

Longer would have been better, but this still a very good deal.

And if his play drops off after he turns 30 it would suck. Leafs get Matthews for his prime years. If we don't succeed in another 5 years it's time to pull the plug anyway.

Unless McDavid signs here as a UFA for el cheapo

That would be hilarious to have him and Matthews together in 3 years.

Longer would have been better, but this still a very good deal.

And if his play drops off after he turns 30 it would suck. Leafs get Matthews for his prime years. If we don't succeed in another 5 years it's time to pull the plug anyway.

At the end of the deal Matthews will have been here for 12 years. I absolutely love it that he's betting on himself. Good deal.