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Deebo:

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--- Quote from: Deebo on May 25, 2016, 02:29:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: L K on May 25, 2016, 02:25:49 PM ---Have to keep the almighty .150 batting average on the roster.

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Quality defender on the bench in case Tulo isn't 100%?

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I'm no fan of Venditte but if Tulo goes on the DL you can bring him back up.  His value as a defensive player is negligible when he is hitting this bad (and it isn't the first season in his career he has done this).

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I mean in the case where Tulo's injury isn't serious enough to warrant a DL stint but they want to rest him for a couple days. Otherwise, I agree with you.

We'll see when the line-up comes out today.

bustaheims:

--- Quote from: Deebo on May 25, 2016, 02:39:39 PM ---I mean in the case where Tulo's injury isn't serious enough to warrant a DL stint but they want to rest him for a couple days. Otherwise, I agree with you.

We'll see when the line-up comes out today.

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Even though he hasn't played at SS much in his career, for a couple games here and there, you could probably put Barney there and come out okay, or even shift Travis over and have Barney play 2B. It's not ideal, but it's an option, and it makes more sense than wasting a roster spot on Goins. And, I mean, if they really wanted to, they could easily send Venditte down when they wanted to rest Tulo instead of making that move now, and have a little more depth in the pen, as questionable as that depth may be.

Deebo:

--- Quote from: bustaheims on May 25, 2016, 02:48:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Deebo on May 25, 2016, 02:39:39 PM ---I mean in the case where Tulo's injury isn't serious enough to warrant a DL stint but they want to rest him for a couple days. Otherwise, I agree with you.

We'll see when the line-up comes out today.

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Even though he hasn't played at SS much in his career, for a couple games here and there, you could probably put Barney there and come out okay, or even shift Travis over and have Barney play 2B. It's not ideal, but it's an option, and it makes more sense than wasting a roster spot on Goins. And, I mean, if they really wanted to, they could easily send Venditte down when they wanted to rest Tulo instead of making that move now, and have a little more depth in the pen, as questionable as that depth may be.

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I'm saying maybe they want to keep Tulo out of the line up for the next few days because he left the game last night with a hamstring problem. If he is out today with that injury (but not serious enough for a 15 day DL stint) and they play Barney and Travis in the middle infield and Barney or Travis gets hurt, then what?

L K:

--- Quote from: Deebo on May 25, 2016, 02:59:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: bustaheims on May 25, 2016, 02:48:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Deebo on May 25, 2016, 02:39:39 PM ---I mean in the case where Tulo's injury isn't serious enough to warrant a DL stint but they want to rest him for a couple days. Otherwise, I agree with you.

We'll see when the line-up comes out today.

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Even though he hasn't played at SS much in his career, for a couple games here and there, you could probably put Barney there and come out okay, or even shift Travis over and have Barney play 2B. It's not ideal, but it's an option, and it makes more sense than wasting a roster spot on Goins. And, I mean, if they really wanted to, they could easily send Venditte down when they wanted to rest Tulo instead of making that move now, and have a little more depth in the pen, as questionable as that depth may be.

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I'm saying maybe they want to keep Tulo out of the line up for the next few days because he left the game last night with a hamstring problem. If he is out today with that injury (but not serious enough for a 15 day DL stint) and they play Barney and Travis in the middle infield and Barney or Travis gets hurt, then what?

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You move Martin to 2B and Barney/Travis to SS and make do for the single game that you deal with the situation.  Or you put Paredes at 2B and move Barney/Travis to SS. Again, for that single game that you have to worry about it.

bustaheims:

--- Quote from: L K on May 25, 2016, 03:07:13 PM ---You move Martin to 2B and Barney/Travis to SS and make do for the single game that you deal with the situation.  Or you put Paredes at 2B and move Barney/Travis to SS. Again, for that single game that you have to worry about it.

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Exactly. There are options on the roster that minimize Goins' value right now. With the offence and bullpen struggling the way they are, there's no reason to keep a defensive specialist who's not producing at the plate on the roster. The team can manage for a couple games with a defensive downgrade. Right now, they can't manage with another hole in the batting order.

And, as for Venditte, he could have been sent down to make room for someone else in the pen - like maybe Browning - who's been excellent in his minor league career so far - or Stilson, or some of the other minor league vets they have down there that could potentially make for a reasonable relief arm.

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