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Some people have been super hard on his start and the points aren't there and admittedly sure he isn't playing at his absolute best, but I still think he could have pretty easily had goals in each of his first 3 games if some bounces went just a tiny bit more his way. The 4th game was a little different because that was all Matthews but if Auston finished on one of his chances he could have had additional points there. So all in all I don't think there's much to worry about with Marner right now.

I think we should hit the panic button.
Hit the panic button? C'mon, man. You gotta mash that baby hard and repeatedly.

I broke my panic button in 1990-91.  It's in the permanent on position.  That's my secret.  I'm always panicking.

As long as Matthews wasn't hurt at the end of this game, because he looked like he was laboring there.

Hey look at that.  The Leafs are trying something new.  They are getting goalied at the start of the season.

What happened to Kappo Kakko?

Have to agree with Justin Bourne; Ritchie has been completely invisible.


Although, I think all Leaf fans should be prepared to never see Marner score again.

On the Ritchie front, I think one of the cool things is that once they get Matthews back, there are some options, like moving Bunting up with Marner and Matthews.

General NHL News & Views / Re: 2021-2022 NHL Thread
« on: October 16, 2021, 10:48:28 AM »
I feel better, thanks Flyera

I have friends who are Flyers fans. This is unkind.
Did Carter Hart just fall off a cliff?

Kind of looks that way.  Funny, it was rumoured that one of the reasons Ron Hextall was let go as GM of the Flyers is because he didn't want to bring Carter Hart up from the minors because he felt that goaltenders need a lot of time to be mentally prepared for the NHL.  Starting to look like he may have been right. 

Going back to the defense of the Leafs angle:

Jake Allen - Expected GAA 4.34
Anton Forsberg - Expected GAA 4.71

In terms of overall scoring opportunities the Leafs should have won both games.

Yeah, the numbers are great, but at some point that has to translate in to actual wins some how.  Like last year Tampa and Toronto both had amazing underlying numbers against the Habs, but the Habs beat the Leafs in 7 games, and Tampa beat the Habs in 5.  Maybe some of that is rest, and the Canadiens just couldn't dig any deeper, but having great  underlying numbers isn't going to cut it if those don't turn into wins when things matter.

I wonder if this is just a common complaint every fan has of their team. In the Matthews era the Leafs have more 1st period goals than any other team, and the 2nd best goal differential in the 1st. It's hard for me to look at those numbers and think that "slow starts" are something that plague them more than the average team.

They go through stretches where it seems like they don't get going until halfway through the 1st. There's definitely some confirmation and recency bias - we remember the times it blew up on them and the very recent poor starts. I wonder if maybe the slow starts seem much more pronounced because of how good this team can be when they are firing on all cylinders.

It also feels like they have a tendency to start poorly in more important games, but that could also be confirmation bias and a recency effect.

I found in Matthews first year, they would get behind early, and then slowly take the game over.   I found that since Matthews second year, they would score early in the games where they come out fired up, and then slowly let the other team take over.  There has been progress in this area, as last year they were good in the one goal games and looked like they could calmly shut down those games where they had a lead.

Like you say it just seems like certain games they start like they are skating in mud and then they try and make up for it in the third period. 

At least one of the nice things is Spezza still looks good.  He's at 972 points now so have a really good chance to get to 1000 points this year.

I was thinking last night that Spezza is a guy that looks like he's really trying to change the momentum of the game...the rest of the forwards just seemed to be following the play around.

If they're going to lean on 47 year old Spezza to lead the charge, they're going to have a problem.

Last night's lack of controlling the game was reminiscent of the Montreal playoff series' last 3 games.

And this is where we start down the path of "Has this team learned that they need to put in a solid effort every night?  Do they know how to rise to the occasion?"  These are the types of games that they need to show up for.  It's not that they lost, it's the way they lost.  That discombobulated, ,disorganized feel to their game that rears it's ugly head early on in the season, and when they get a lead in a playoff series.  Those are the games that, that when they lose them, they feel worse than the ones where they look good and just have a couple of things not go their way.

Non-Hockey Chatter / Re: The Official TV Thread
« on: October 15, 2021, 11:59:25 AM »
Where are you guys streaming Rick and Morty from?

My takeaway from this beauty is that Matthews should have gotten his writs done in June, not August.

It would also be nice if the Leafs didn't have to play the Sens on the second night of a back to back every year to start the season.

Agreed. Would like to see the slow starts be a thing of the past

We've been saying that for years.

That's what leads to the reaction of these types of games.  When the old habits creep up, it doesn't do a lot to enforce that this year, the playoffs are going to be different.

What I don't understand is the inconsistency of the hockey gods.  Melnyk flat out criticized the Leafs rebuild by saying that they had forgotten about the defence.  Then tonight the way the Sens introduced Brady Tkachuk was a little over the top.

If the Leafs did either of those things against another team, BAM!!!! 20 game losing streak against that team with at least 5 of those losses being the embarrassing kind.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2021-22 Training Camp Thread
« on: October 08, 2021, 04:02:40 PM »
I think maybe a fair criticism right now of the administration is that the talent assessment and acquisitions (trade or draft or overseas signings) of assets hasn't really produced much of value, even with the super duper scouting and development team.

Like, they're having to sign FA's to fill out the bottom six, as well as top six wingers around the core-4.  It seems to me that the Marlies should be developing those assets and delivering them while they're still low cost RFA.  Anderson is an example, to me, of a guy that hasn't taken any steps toward being a regular NHL contributor since his acquisition in that trade.  Was he a middling prospect at the time of the trade?  Sure...but he hasn't really improved his value since.

There may be something to that.  If you look at cap friendly in the acquired column, of the 13 forwards the Leafs have on the roster, 4 of them were drafted.  One was traded for, and the rest were signed.  If you look at Tampa Bay, the 8 of their 13 forwards were drafted by the team, and the top seven earners for forwards on that team were all drafted. 

The defence is a little different.  The Leafs have drafted three of the six d-men listed on the site.  They traded for one of them and signed the other two.  For Tampa, they drafted two of their 7, traded for 3 and signed 2. 

Anyways, this years team does have a large contingent of FA signings.

Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2021-22 Training Camp Thread
« on: October 06, 2021, 11:57:39 PM »
Does a forum get fat when it has a lot of empty answers?  Asking for a friend.

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