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Blah blah blah Leafs are only team to overpay blah blah blah................
Quote from: Zee on June 15, 2024, 05:03:48 PMHopefully this ends tonight, the Euro is on, time for soccer

All Sports But Hockey / Euro 2024
June 14, 2024, 02:55:59 PM
Scotland down to Germany 3-0 at half time. 
Quote from: Zee on June 13, 2024, 01:34:59 PMWhat's Ottawa going to do now that they don't have a system to track their cap?

They are scouring Facebook Marketplace for a Commodore 64. 
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Quote from: Rob on June 10, 2024, 06:30:46 AM$12.5 x 8 and be done with it. 

This is where I've been at for a long time now.  This can be the easiest negotiation by offering him $100 million over eight years and just be done with it.
The third-highest cap hit in the league is what you're proposing, MACKINNON money.

If Mackinon were being signed this year he's be getting more. I know you know that matters for context.
Signed in September 2022. I think what the cap projections were at the time has come to fruition so I do believe it's a relevant comparison. Yes, the cap increase this coming season is a little higher than projected but close to the projected raise.

I disagree. This is exactly why Matthews chose a shorter contract, so he could maximize value upon renewal. If mackinnon were being signed this season he'd be looking for Matthews money, if not more.

Here is cap forecast from Sep 2022, they were correct.


I do not understand why the Leafs continue to pay their stars so high. Is McKinnion an idiot or do the Leafs overpay? I think the Leafs overpay.

Do you think some team would have given Matthews more than $13.25m?  I think some other team would have. 
I mean, it's one thing to let your UFA's walk, it's quite another to just keep dealing picks and prospects for rentals.  That is really what has messed up this team.  No cheap talent.  They have to keep going to the UFA market, overpaying for marginal talent. 

Sure, it gets to the point where you may not be able to keep all your homegrown talent.  That is when you take advantage of dealing from a position of strength. Dealing those players you can't afford for what you really need, or for more picks. 

This team is bereft of any prospects that look like a sure NHL'ers except for Cowan.  Nothing on defense, and nothing in goal.  Hildeby is still a big question mark. 
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: Reilly To The Wing
June 12, 2024, 08:23:14 AM
NHL '94 came out thirty years ago.
All Sports But Hockey / Re: The Cricket Thread
June 10, 2024, 03:10:58 PM
Is that that really whack version of baseball? 
$12.5 x 8 and be done with it. 
Quote from: Joe on June 06, 2024, 11:05:21 AMHaving lived through the Sundin era, and so have pretty much all of you, the willingness to throw away such a talented player is baffling to me.

Just imagine if Sundin had just one of Nylander, Marner or Matthews on his teams.

I'm 100% with cw on this one, supporting cast and goaltending are what need to be addressed.

It's absolutely pathetic that the leafs haven't drafted and developed a star goalie since Potvin. And the one they did they punted in what I call the worst trade in franchise history.

Anyway a few mini rants there.

100% with CW on this.  Draft Shmaft philosophy and trading away prospects leaves the team with no cheap talent.  Instead they have to overpay mediocre FA and watch rentals they traded picks and prospects for leave in the off season. 

Instead, they have no picks, no prospects and have to look at trading and or letting their elite player walk into FA to try to improve the team.

It's nuts.   
Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on June 06, 2024, 10:27:13 AMThank you, cw.  Totally agree.

But nonetheless we can look forward to months of 10-cent pop psychologizing, hot-mic hot-takes, endless nattering about Marner's "camp" (whatever that means), advance-stat contrarianism, and a whole bunch of stupid ideas to give away / drive away an elite player.

It's down right bat shit crazy. 
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Quote from: herman on June 04, 2024, 08:55:03 AMThey probably go shopping on the DNQ list from the rest of the league though, a la Simon Benoit.

DNQ's and the surprise bought out guys have generally been some of the best value signings in the league the past few years. So yeah whoever shakes loose from those groups could change what the team does.

One man's trash is another's treasure.
Geographically, the farthest apart SCF.  Seven and a half hour flight. 
Quote from: herman on May 28, 2024, 08:42:33 PMI don't normally watch after the Leafs are eliminated in the playoffs, but I'm watching these semis and the Leafs were sooo far off from contending like this.

Feels bad, man. 
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