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Blue Jays Hot Stove Thread

Started by Nik, November 10, 2019, 02:29:33 PM

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L K

Rob Manfred.  Intentionally the worst commissioner in professional sports or just incompetently so?

Arn

Quote from: L K on February 16, 2020, 05:57:36 PM
Rob Manfred.  Intentionally the worst commissioner in professional sports or just incompetently so?

It's really interesting to me how so many players are actually speaking out against the Astros and Manfred. It's just not really something you see from baseball players in general. I think this sign stealing thing has a long way to run yet..

Even Mike Trout spoke out!
I Saw Jay McClement Score.

Deebo

Revisiting the riveting debate on Urena, he was DFA by the Orioles.

Nik


It was probably inevitable but the Jays have decided to black out their games on MLB.tv throughout Canada and have them exclusively on Sportsnet.

It's not something particular to the Jays as I think the MLSE teams are worse for it but it does strike me as particularly damaging to Baseball, a sport that's struggling to bring in young fans, to make streaming their product much more expensive than comparable entertainment options. For the cost of being able to legally stream all MLB games I could get all of Netflix, Spotify, Disney+, AppleTV and XBox Games Pass for roughly the same price.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

Highlander

Quote from: Nik Bethune on February 22, 2020, 02:57:46 PM

It was probably inevitable but the Jays have decided to black out their games on MLB.tv throughout Canada and have them exclusively on Sportsnet.

It's not something particular to the Jays as I think the MLSE teams are worse for it but it does strike me as particularly damaging to Baseball, a sport that's struggling to bring in young fans, to make streaming their product much more expensive than comparable entertainment options. For the cost of being able to legally stream all MLB games I could get all of Netflix, Spotify, Disney+, AppleTV and XBox Games Pass for roughly the same price.
Ya Nik, I don't see any upside in the decision at all. We need to have young viewers and most are affixed to streaming devices.
"In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few"
                                           Sunryn Suzuki

Deebo

Quote from: Nik Bethune on February 22, 2020, 02:57:46 PM

It was probably inevitable but the Jays have decided to black out their games on MLB.tv throughout Canada and have them exclusively on Sportsnet.

It's not something particular to the Jays as I think the MLSE teams are worse for it but it does strike me as particularly damaging to Baseball, a sport that's struggling to bring in young fans, to make streaming their product much more expensive than comparable entertainment options. For the cost of being able to legally stream all MLB games I could get all of Netflix, Spotify, Disney+, AppleTV and XBox Games Pass for roughly the same price.

Another problem with this is MLB.tv is a great service and Sportsnet NOW sucks.

Deebo

Quote from: Highlander on February 22, 2020, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: Nik Bethune on February 22, 2020, 02:57:46 PM

It was probably inevitable but the Jays have decided to black out their games on MLB.tv throughout Canada and have them exclusively on Sportsnet.

It's not something particular to the Jays as I think the MLSE teams are worse for it but it does strike me as particularly damaging to Baseball, a sport that's struggling to bring in young fans, to make streaming their product much more expensive than comparable entertainment options. For the cost of being able to legally stream all MLB games I could get all of Netflix, Spotify, Disney+, AppleTV and XBox Games Pass for roughly the same price.
Ya Nik, I don't see any upside in the decision at all. We need to have young viewers and most are affixed to streaming devices.

Sportsnet NOW is a streaming service, its just bad.

Arn

MLB TV is a phenomenal service. As far as individual sports streaming it is the model any sport (NHL, English premier league football etc) should look to as a template. Luckily over here we aren't subject to blackouts so if I go for it this year I should still see every game I want to.

But the UK cousin of baseball, cricket, went behind pay TV wall in 2005 and theyve now invented an entirely new version of the game to show it on free to air TV cos the participation (and even awareness in terms of recognition of "star" players etc) numbers have tanked across the whole country. I'd fear something like this could be an unintended result of this short sighted, commercial money grabbing decision.
I Saw Jay McClement Score.

Nik

Quote from: Deebo on February 22, 2020, 03:10:51 PM
Another problem with this is MLB.tv is a great service and Sportsnet NOW sucks.

I'm sure that the commonality is that they're Canadian and thus smaller enterprises but all of the Canadian streaming services, TSN and Sportsnet and Crave, all seem to be generally terrible.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

L K

#144
Quote from: Nik Bethune on February 22, 2020, 02:57:46 PM

It was probably inevitable but the Jays have decided to black out their games on MLB.tv throughout Canada and have them exclusively on Sportsnet.

It's not something particular to the Jays as I think the MLSE teams are worse for it but it does strike me as particularly damaging to Baseball, a sport that's struggling to bring in young fans, to make streaming their product much more expensive than comparable entertainment options. For the cost of being able to legally stream all MLB games I could get all of Netflix, Spotify, Disney+, AppleTV and XBox Games Pass for roughly the same price.

I cancelled my subscription to MLB.tv this year.   The Facebook games did it in for me.   I stream the games in my office and I can't use Facebook there so losing access to games really just kind of ended up being the last straw for me.    Glad I did it because I have zero interest in using a product that doesn't let me watch my team.   

Deebo

Quote from: Nik Bethune on February 22, 2020, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: Deebo on February 22, 2020, 03:10:51 PM
Another problem with this is MLB.tv is a great service and Sportsnet NOW sucks.

I'm sure that the commonality is that they're Canadian and thus smaller enterprises but all of the Canadian streaming services, TSN and Sportsnet and Crave, all seem to be generally terrible.

You can't even rewind with TSN.

Nik

Another ranking of the Jays' prospects. Fun to see that behind Jansen and McGuire the Jays have a couple of well regarded young catchers in the system who are expected to be in the bigs in the next few years.

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/2020/bluejays
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

Andy

Quote from: Nik Bethune on February 27, 2020, 05:15:34 PM
Another ranking of the Jays' prospects. Fun to see that behind Jansen and McGuire the Jays have a couple of well regarded young catchers in the system who are expected to be in the bigs in the next few years.

https://www.mlb.com/prospects/2020/bluejays

Not only that but the return on Stroman (2 top ten prospects) combined with the signing of Ryu is looking pretty nice right now...

Highlander

When you consider we got Giles for Osuna, I think we got a win on that trade, Giles is a beast. And the  Strobro deal, we got a great return.  Sanchez is looking like he was a shooting star and can't seem to find his way back so the return for him, although grim when the trade happened seems to have panned out at par.
"In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few"
                                           Sunryn Suzuki

OldTimeHockey

Quote from: Nik Bethune on February 22, 2020, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: Deebo on February 22, 2020, 03:10:51 PM
Another problem with this is MLB.tv is a great service and Sportsnet NOW sucks.

I'm sure that the commonality is that they're Canadian and thus smaller enterprises but all of the Canadian streaming services, TSN and Sportsnet and Crave, all seem to be generally terrible.

I actually like Crave's selection when you package in the HBO portion. The app's though require some serious work.