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Messages - CarltonTheBear

#1
Keefe vs. Dubas in the Metro now, that'll be an interesting story line.
#2
https://twitter.com/KevinWeekes/status/1793279253804359709

Somewhat relevant to the Leafs as multiple reports suggested that D.J. Smith (who joined Hiller as an assistant coach midseason) could join Berube's staff if Hiller wasn't kept on as LA's head coach.
#3
Tampa trades away McDonagh when they shouldn't have (betting he would fall off in his 33 and 34-year old seasons, he didn't) and then reacquire him when they shouldn't (more likely to fall off in his 35 and 36-year old seasons, and they're in more of a cap bind with Stamkos). Alrighty.

Pretty tidy bit of business from Nashville though, but it also leaves a big hole in their defence.
#6
https://twitter.com/TLNdc/status/1792238266722156638

A rough final year here obviously, as well as in the playoffs last year, but man Brodie was a bit of stud for most of his time as a Leaf. And while not a perfect fit as a LHD he solved the Rielly-partner problem for a long time. It's a shame just how much he fell off this season because I would have loved to see him stay on a cheap home down discount in more of a bottom pairing role for awhile.
#7
https://twitter.com/PR_NHL/status/1791653851386277953

Game 1: Panthers at Rangers -- May 22, 8 p.m. ET (ESPN, ESPN+, SN, CBC, TVAS)
Game 2: Panthers at Rangers -- May 24, 8 p.m. ET (ESPN, ESPN+, SN, CBC, TVAS)
Game 3: Rangers at Panthers -- May 26, 3 p.m. ET (ABC, ESPN+, SN, CBC, TVAS)
Game 4: Rangers at Panthers -- May 28, 8 p.m. ET (ESPN, ESPN+, SN, CBC, TVAS)
+ Game 5: Panthers at Rangers -- May 30, 8 p.m. ET (ESPN, ESPN+, SN, CBC, TVAS)
+ Game 6: Rangers at Panthers -- June 1, 8 p.m. ET (ABC, ESPN+, SN, CBC, TVAS)
+ Game 7: Panthers at Rangers -- June 3, 8 p.m. ET (ESPN, ESPN+, SN, CBC, TVAS)
#8
https://twitter.com/PR_NHL/status/1792770117647863959

Game 1: Oilers at Stars -- May 23, 8:30 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
Game 2: Oilers at Stars -- May 25, 8 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
Game 3: Stars at Oilers -- May 27, 8:30 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
Game 4: Stars at Oilers -- May 29, 8:30 p.m. ET (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
+ Game 5: Oilers at Stars -- May 31, TBD (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, TVAS)
+ Game 6: Stars at Oilers -- June 2, TBD (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, TVAS)
+ Game 7: Oilers at Stars -- June 4, TBD (TNT, truTV, MAX, SN, CBC, TVAS)
#9
Quote from: Zee on Yesterday at 07:08:51 AM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on May 20, 2024, 08:53:58 PMI'd argue the Vegas one with Theodore + a 1st is actually pretty good for the Leafs. So much so that it's actually probably unrealistic for Vegas to offer. The Arizona/Utah one is definitely comically bad.  The Chicago and New Jersey ones are bad as is but one extra piece from either team could make them doable.

I also like the Vegas one. There's hope there cause Vegas isn't shy to make big trades and they lost early this year. Marner might be ok to go there cause they're a contender

Yeah I just don't know if they're looking to add another $10mil+ player. They need to shed salary more than anything right now actually.
#10
I'd argue the Vegas one with Theodore + a 1st is actually pretty good for the Leafs. So much so that it's actually probably unrealistic for Vegas to offer. The Arizona/Utah one is definitely comically bad.  The Chicago and New Jersey ones are bad as is but one extra piece from either team could make them doable.
#11
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1791551812115300603

Nothing really new here. Every insider is basically saying/hinting Berube and the Leafs are close, but Friedman's upping the credibility by putting it in writing.
#12
Quote from: Arn on May 17, 2024, 02:39:13 PMSo if it is Berube, can we get O'Reilly back in the Marner/Sarros trade?

In hindsight (or without it really), not being able to get ROR extended hurt the team very badly. Especially with how well he played for the Preds this season.
#13
Quote from: Frank E on May 15, 2024, 05:55:12 PMAnd another thing...if Bert and Domi want to come back, are we good with that?

It's getting harder and harder to see Cowan going back to the OHL next season. That means our LW currently has Knies, McMann, Cowan, Holmberg/Dewar. Certainly no all-stars (yet?) but adding Bert to that group makes it seem a little crowded, both next season and beyond. So unless he's taking one heck of a discount to stay here (doubtufl) the $5-6mil or so that it'd take to re-sign him would probably be better utilized anywhere else (C, RW, D, G).
#14
Quote from: Bender on May 15, 2024, 04:27:03 PMSaros is undersized, going to be 30 before the playoffs next year, had a down year this year and has inconsistent playoff results. This sets off alarm bells for me. Maybe he returns to form, but maybe not. I 100% agree we need a bona fide starter, but I don't know if this is how we should use our main trade chip. Do the Preds play a better defensive game than we do?

I'm not saying these aren't valid concerns but there are going to be red flags regardless of which direction this this whole Marner saga goes in. I mean quite literally Nashville could be expressing those same 4 concerns with Marner from their end (well aside from Marner being a little younger but still his next contract will be almost entirely in his 30s), which is why I don't think this trade is that insane. Both players have high end potential and could be at the top of their respective positions but also come with some issues.
#15
Quote from: Bill_Berg on May 15, 2024, 04:11:18 PMYeah the space is valuable no doubt, but does another team get to give up less because of that? I just feel like they could get more than just Saros. Or at least would like to think that.

I've been pretty Jekyll and Hyde-y when it comes to Marner's trade value but I think there's good reason for it. On the one hand yes it's impossible to deny that we're talking about a forward who is in the prime of his career with 100-point and Selke nomination potential. On the other hand you have a player with a long and real history of playoff disappointment. A history with difficult contract negotiations. And a current contract that isn't great in all areas: 1 year left, one of the highest AAVs in the league, and an iron clad NMC.

Like sure if the Leafs put Marner on an auction for all the other teams to openly bid on him his return would be a lot more impressive than I'm expecting it to be right now. But as things stands it's important to remember that it's entirely possible Marner only waives his NMC for 1-3 teams. There's a lot of things here that are legitimately hampering the trade value of a 27-year potential 100-point, Selke calibre winger.