Is Hirvonen in it?

Is Boston ever going to lose?

Well that was fast.

I'm so sick of seeing this woman's pink eye or whatever the hell

I know, but for whatever reason I really want a hotdog.

Good game thus far. Tavares why you take that penalty?

That was a beautiful sequence.

For a guy who went to Harvard Kerfoot makes some really dumb decisions.

Not a great start...

I think that what the league tried to do is appeal to all sides of an issue in which all sides would object to anything but a committed approach.

Virtue signalling is a tricky business sometimes, specifically if it threatens the bottom line.

What does "all sides would object to anything but a committed approach" mean to you though? What is considered "committed"? Not all teams participate in Pride night the same way.

When an organization modifies it's planned approach due to minority opposing viewpoints, it's not a committed approach. Mealy-mouthed team and league statements trying to placate all sides are lame and sad.

We are in agreement there, but does the extent of the planned approach matter? Is what the Leafs do considered a committed approach even though as far as I know they haven't warmed up in Pride jerseys?

I think that what the league tried to do is appeal to all sides of an issue in which all sides would object to anything but a committed approach.

Virtue signalling is a tricky business sometimes, specifically if it threatens the bottom line.

What does "all sides would object to anything but a committed approach" mean to you though? What is considered "committed"? Not all teams participate in Pride night the same way.

In regards to Pride Night, I think it's important to respect the fact that players shouldn't be forced to wear the jersey if they have strong religious beliefs.  We shouldn't judge the validity of their beliefs. Religion is a personal thing, & the strength & type of worship/beliefs vary from person to person. 

Hockey players as a whole are the most down to earth, real people out of the 4 major sports.  That should be embraced, whether you agree or disagree with them.

Religious belief is a smokescreen and you know it. This is about inclusivity and saying "You're accepted here" and nothing to do with anything else. You could go down any logical rabbit hole as soon as you say you need to respect my religious belief. We shouldn't be celebrating women in hockey because women are property, the Bible says so!

As an aside, I find it hilarious that there's some religious objection to being welcoming. I wonder what Christians (or any religious denomination) who are gay (and there are a lot of them) think about this.

There is no reason for the gay community to think they are not welcome at hockey games.  In fact, some of the players who didn't wear the jersey said they welcome all fans.  On another subject, it's a shame that many people these days trivialize religion.

Rather than the player saying they aren't going to wear the jersey for religious reasons, would it be better for them to make up another excuse & miss the pre-game skate.....such as a lengthy bathroom visit, extra tape or muscle therapy in the training room, etc?

1. You are literally wilfully ignorant thinking gays have no reason to think they aren't welcomed by the sporting community at large, especially one with the history that hockey does. How many openly gay players are there again? Right.

2. Nobody said anything about "trivializing" religion. I am saying using it as your reasoning is a cop out, especially the number of copycats recently. There's no way this is all for "religious" reasons, and even if it was, religion can be used to justify any non-inclusivity you wish. And you didn't address the fact that there are millions of gay people who believe and partake in organized religions that these players say they are against for religious reasons. It's completely nonsensical.

*Edit: You haven't posted since 2021 and you feel the need to chime in on this with this kind of take? Give me a break.

In regards to Pride Night, I think it's important to respect the fact that players shouldn't be forced to wear the jersey if they have strong religious beliefs.   We shouldn't judge the validity of their beliefs. Religion is a personal thing, & the strength & type of worship/beliefs vary from person to person.   

Hockey players as a whole are the most down to earth, real people out of the 4 major sports.  That should be embraced, whether you agree or disagree with them.

Religious belief is a smokescreen and you know it. This is about inclusivity and saying "You're accepted here" and nothing to do with anything else. You could go down any logical rabbit hole as soon as you say you need to respect my seemingly arbitrary religious belief. We shouldn't be celebrating women in hockey because women are property, the Bible says so!

As an aside, I find it hilarious that there's some religious objection to being welcoming. I wonder what Christians (or any religious denomination) who are gay (and there are a lot of them) think about this.

Chicago not having pride jerseys because they might upset their Russian players.  Trash organization

The NHL is just getting consistently and thoroughly killed on this issue. They look at best incompetent and at worst actively opposed to the sort of inclusion they're supposedly trying to put forth. I genuinely can't believe anyone at the League office thinks their response is going well.

I mean, it's almost worse that they tried the initiative without the express guarantee that all players involved would either take part, and those who wouldn't would be at minimum forced to sit out. Its crazy to me that you'd over promise and under deliver than under promise and over deliver. Like that's just optics 101.

Yeaaahhh. Jeez Bob that was a good first save.

They haven't had a 5v3 this season? Dafuk?