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Re: Armchair GM 2016-2017
« Reply #645 on: June 27, 2017, 03:01:48 PM »
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-trade-value-first-round-pick/

Some Toronto content for the clicks:
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1. Snow and Toronto GM Lou Lamoriello had a seven-minute conversation on the draft floor prior to Round 1. As has been reported, the name James van Riemsdyk came up. The Islanders felt Andrew Ladd and Anders Lee fit the same pattern, so they passed.

5. He’s staying low profile — and there is serious doubt he actually wants to leave San Jose — but there is a list of teams who want to peer inside Joe Thornton’s head. At the draft, there was a lot of talk it would take a three-year deal to lure him. Potential suitors include Columbus, Los Angeles, Montreal and the Rangers. I could see Toronto having interest, but I’m not certain... Toronto is quieter about its intentions, but don’t forget that Mike Babcock has plenty of Team Canada history with both Marleau and Thornton.
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Re: Armchair GM 2016-2017
« Reply #646 on: June 27, 2017, 03:12:54 PM »
Jooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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Re: Armchair GM 2016-2017
« Reply #647 on: June 27, 2017, 03:19:05 PM »
Jooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

#6 says he might also look into prolonging his career in the Swiss League, as he met his missus during his first pass through HC Davos.
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Re: Armchair GM 2016-2017
« Reply #648 on: June 27, 2017, 03:37:39 PM »
Jooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

As if he'd cut that beard to play for the Leafs.

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Re: Armchair GM 2016-2017
« Reply #649 on: June 27, 2017, 03:48:41 PM »
Jooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

As if he'd cut that beard to play for the Leafs.


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Re: Armchair GM 2016-2017
« Reply #650 on: June 27, 2017, 03:59:23 PM »
Emelin appears to be available. Could we take a flyer on him or is he crap?

Cap hit is way too high for what he provides.
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Re: Armchair GM 2016-2017
« Reply #651 on: June 27, 2017, 04:06:40 PM »
Jooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

As if he'd cut that beard to play for the Leafs.

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Re: Armchair GM 2016-2017
« Reply #652 on: June 27, 2017, 04:31:40 PM »
Marleau linked to here now too:

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Lots of interest in Patrick Marleau coming off 27-goal season. Toronto, Anaheim, NYR, SJ, Carolina, Nashville, LA all in the mix.

I've brought this up a couple of times, but trading JVR and Bozak for a defenceman and/or futures and replacing them with Marleau and Thornton for the next 2 years would be a heck of a move.

Even if they lose a bit offensively because of their age, those 2 are miles ahead of JVR and Bozak defensively. Miles. The upgrade there would also make getting another top defenceman less of a priority.
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Re: Armchair GM 2016-2017
« Reply #653 on: June 27, 2017, 04:58:53 PM »
Jooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

As if he'd cut that beard to play for the Leafs.

Ah yes, that moment when you remember you cheer for this stupid team.

Years from now, we'll be discussing the wisdom of the Joe Thornton beard exception.
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Re: Armchair GM 2016-2017
« Reply #654 on: June 27, 2017, 05:00:36 PM »
$10m X 2 between the 2?

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Re: Armchair GM 2016-2017
« Reply #655 on: June 27, 2017, 05:03:00 PM »
$10m X 2 between the 2?

I'd guess $6mil for Thornton and $5mil for Marleau.

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« Reply #656 on: June 27, 2017, 05:48:50 PM »
Translation: the players other teams want to trade for are not available for trade (at least not for what they were offering), which relates to our pre-contention lack of player for player deals.

We're still in pre-contending mode, no?

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Re: Armchair GM 2016-2017
« Reply #657 on: June 27, 2017, 06:02:55 PM »
What about Winnik for 4th line centre?

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« Reply #658 on: June 27, 2017, 06:47:58 PM »
I agree that it shouldn't be a matter of urgent priority as another year of development for the guys on defense we have could yield some solid returns on its own.

That said, I think dealing JVR and Bozak is a priority and I don't know how much it makes sense right now to get back draft picks for them. So it seems like it makes a lot of sense to add a defenseman this summer. That said I don't think it needs to be an established defenseman.

The problem that might arise with moving JVR and Bozak for something other than futures is that the short term remaining on their deals would restrict the suitors to teams that aren't looking to move players that are ready to contribute at the NHL level.

What type of return do you see as a possible fit to our situation?

I struggle to see anything other than futures, and perhaps moving some of those futures for something to upgrade the current roster.

Well obviously the ideal situation would be JVR being amenable to signing an extension with whoever we dealt him to so that would be less of an issue.

But I guess what I'm thinking of is a team that's sort of in contend now mode but that has also drafted reasonably well in recent years. So I've mentioned Travis Sanheim or Jacob Larsson or Gabriel Carlsson  as possibilities.

Yeah, getting a guy better pedigreed and bit further developed than Bracco/Lily would be pretty good. I'm not sure if this is setting my sights higher or lower, but a Jake Gardiner or Cody Franson like deal would be something I'd hope the Leafs could pull off and which would move the needle on defense (if not get them the next Drew Doughty).

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Re: Armchair GM 2016-2017
« Reply #659 on: June 27, 2017, 08:20:05 PM »
Translation: the players other teams want to trade for are not available for trade (at least not for what they were offering), which relates to our pre-contention lack of player for player deals.

We're still in pre-contending mode, no?

I think we are in that inflection point where both deals for futures and deals for the present make sense as the team gets a read on its prospects and team weaknesses.
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