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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2024 Offseason Thread: Cha...
Last post by princedpw - Yesterday at 09:54:32 PM
Quote from: Bender on Yesterday at 11:48:09 AM
Quote from: herman on Yesterday at 09:40:04 AMhttps://twitter.com/jfreshhockey/status/1794401122054017253
See this? Marner is great at passing into the slot! Too bad it's to Joel Edmundson all the time

https://twitter.com/jhanhky/status/1794735118919303300
Oh wait, that's why it's always to Joel Edmundson.

J "but the chart says" Fresh needs to sit down.

Not all passes to the slot may be equal in value, but the fact that he's #2 on the list still probably tells us something.

Humans look for simple single explanations to complex phenomena and sometimes there just aren't single simple explanations.  The media and the fans are being far too hard on a single guy.
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Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2024 Offseason Thread: Cha...
Last post by Bullfrog - Yesterday at 09:50:00 PM
Quote from: Bender on Yesterday at 05:23:37 PMLetting him walk for nothing should not be considered an option.

Well, it IS an option. One that's out of their control.
#3
Leafs Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM Thread 2024-25
Last post by herman - Yesterday at 08:36:56 PM
https://twitter.com/thefourthperiod/status/1794497384300290326
QuoteThere is no doubt in my mind Marner will be extremely disappointed if the Maple Leafs opt for a change, and he is entirely within his right to hold firm and exercise his NMC. However, if the Maple Leafs decide they want to explore the trade market and ask Marner for a list of teams he would waive his NMC for, it is my understanding he will consider his options, as I reported earlier this month. Teams like Nashville, Vegas, Chicago and Dallas are just four clubs I would keep an eye on, if/when Leafs GM Brad Treliving goes shopping.

QuoteOne veteran forward the Maple Leafs may try to add this summer: David Perron.
#4
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2024 Offseason Thread: Cha...
Last post by Rob - Yesterday at 07:56:30 PM
MITCHY POO WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
#5
Quote from: archie holdsworth on Yesterday at 04:16:04 PM
Quote from: RedLeaf on Yesterday at 02:53:15 PMI wish some members of the media would stop harping on about Marner being the problem for the Leafs not having more playoff success.

Marner is not the problem.

In fact, I would wager he will move onto another team find amazing playoff success and prove this BS theory completely false.

The problem with Maple Leafs is structure, too top heavy and not enough players that can or are willing to play good defensive hockey (Marner is not poor defensively, as proven with his utility on the penalty kill).

It will be regrettable if Marner is the player that is forced out the door in order to fix this teams flaws, but the most regrettable issue is how some of the media are berating him and placing the blame squarely on him .

The guy is one of the very best offensive players in the league and one of the best Leafs of all time. I just hope trading him or letting him walk doesn't come back and bite this team in the ass like it has with a few other ex-Leafs in recent years.

I'm on the same page as you and others who aren't looking to run Marner out of town.

I can't say that the Leafs should keep Marner no matter what. If a value for value trade came up that made lots of sense for the Leafs and for Marner, then sure, you would at least look at it. But this idea of shoving Marner out the door, just because? It's not a good idea.

The Leafs have enough cap space to fix some of their problems. They should address finding a top pairing defenseman. They need at least a 1A goaltender. All the issues that need fixing aren't going to be accomplished in one off-season.

After next season, the Tavares contract will be off the books or re-negotiated. The cap will probably take a much bigger jump. There should be room for further changes. I know Matthews is only signed for 4 more years, but that's a problem for down the road. Remember when he was apparently going to Phoenix for sure? If he likes how the team is developing, he's probably going to stick around.

The Leafs should be looking at re-signing Marner. There will be a salary bump. Leafs fans shouldn't fly off the handle when he gets that.

Good posts, and I agree.
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Leafs Rumours & Speculation / Re: Armchair GM Thread 2024-25
Last post by Dappleganger - Yesterday at 07:45:15 PM
Who wouldn't want to see what effect Berube can have on Marner?
#7
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2024 Offseason Thread: Cha...
Last post by Bender - Yesterday at 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: RedLeaf on Yesterday at 02:53:15 PMI wish some members of the media would stop harping on about Marner being the problem for the Leafs not having more playoff success.

Marner is not the problem.

In fact, I would wager he will move onto another team find amazing playoff success and prove this BS theory completely false.

The problem with Maple Leafs is structure, too top heavy and not enough players that can or are willing to play good defensive hockey (Marner is not poor defensively, as proven with his utility on the penalty kill).

It will be regrettable if Marner is the player that is forced out the door in order to fix this teams flaws, but the most regrettable issue is how some of the media are berating him and placing the blame squarely on him .

The guy is one of the very best offensive players in the league and one of the best Leafs of all time. I just hope trading him or letting him walk doesn't come back and bite this team in the ass like it has with a few other ex-Leafs in recent years.

Letting him walk for nothing should not be considered an option.
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Quote from: RedLeaf on Yesterday at 02:53:15 PMI wish some members of the media would stop harping on about Marner being the problem for the Leafs not having more playoff success.

Marner is not the problem.

In fact, I would wager he will move onto another team find amazing playoff success and prove this BS theory completely false.

The problem with Maple Leafs is structure, too top heavy and not enough players that can or are willing to play good defensive hockey (Marner is not poor defensively, as proven with his utility on the penalty kill).

It will be regrettable if Marner is the player that is forced out the door in order to fix this teams flaws, but the most regrettable issue is how some of the media are berating him and placing the blame squarely on him .

The guy is one of the very best offensive players in the league and one of the best Leafs of all time. I just hope trading him or letting him walk doesn't come back and bite this team in the ass like it has with a few other ex-Leafs in recent years.

I'm on the same page as you and others who aren't looking to run Marner out of town.

I can't say that the Leafs should keep Marner no matter what. If a value for value trade came up that made lots of sense for the Leafs and for Marner, then sure, you would at least look at it. But this idea of shoving Marner out the door, just because? It's not a good idea.

The Leafs have enough cap space to fix some of their problems. They should address finding a top pairing defenseman. They need at least a 1A goaltender. All the issues that need fixing aren't going to be accomplished in one off-season.

After next season, the Tavares contract will be off the books or re-negotiated. The cap will probably take a much bigger jump. There should be room for further changes. I know Matthews is only signed for 4 more years, but that's a problem for down the road. Remember when he was apparently going to Phoenix for sure? If he likes how the team is developing, he's probably going to stick around.

The Leafs should be looking at re-signing Marner. There will be a salary bump. Leafs fans shouldn't fly off the handle when he gets that.
#10
Main Leafs Hockey Talk / Re: 2024 Offseason Thread: Cha...
Last post by RedLeaf - Yesterday at 02:53:15 PM
I wish some members of the media would stop harping on about Marner being the problem for the Leafs not having more playoff success.

Marner is not the problem.

In fact, I would wager he will move onto another team find amazing playoff success and prove this BS theory completely false.

The problem with Maple Leafs is structure, too top heavy and not enough players that can or are willing to play good defensive hockey (Marner is not poor defensively, as proven with his utility on the penalty kill).

It will be regrettable if Marner is the player that is forced out the door in order to fix this teams flaws, but the most regrettable issue is how some of the media are berating him and placing the blame squarely on him .

The guy is one of the very best offensive players in the league and one of the best Leafs of all time. I just hope trading him or letting him walk doesn't come back and bite this team in the ass like it has with a few other ex-Leafs in recent years.