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Dubas drafts without Hunter
« on: October 07, 2020, 03:37:13 PM »
2018
29th overall: Rasmus Sandin (defender, OHL)
52nd overall: Sean Durzi (defender, OHL)
76th overall: Semyon Der-Arguchintsev (forward, OHL)
83rd overall: Riley Stotts (forward, WHL)
118th overall: Mac Hollowell (defender, OHL)
149th overall: Filip Kral (defender, Czechia)
156th overall: Pontus Holmberg (forward, SHL)
209th overall: Zachary Bouthillier (goaltender, QMJHL)
211th overall: Semyon Kizimov (forward, Russia U18)

Out of this draft we still have most of the players in contention or at least still in the system.  Sandin is the obvious gem, Durzi was part of a trade piece with LA. SDA, Hollowell and Kral are all being developed and Kral could be a piece of the future. I believe only Stotts, Bouthillier and Zizimov are gone.

2019


Draft   OA   Round   Player   Pos   Drafted From
2019 Entry Draft
2019   53   2   Nick Robertson   LW   Peterborough (OHL)
2019   84   3   Mikko Kokkonen   LD   Jukurit (SM-Liiga)
2019   115   4   Mikhail Abramov   C   Victoriaville (QMJHL)
2019   124   4   Nick Abruzzese   C   Chicago (USHL)
2019   146   5   Michael Koster   RD   Chaska (Minn. HS)
2019   204   7   Kalle Loponen   RD   Karpat (SM-Liiga)

Robertson is the gem,  Kokkonen, Abramov and perhaps Abruzze may see some time in the show.. Who knows about Koster or Loponen at this point.  But all are still involved in the process.  Small draft for sure.

Much better than Hunters record of drafting huge hulking D men who didn't last a minute in the system. At the time everyone was touting Hunter's horn so loud, not saying he would have been a disaster of a GM but probably more of the dinosaur class.  Dubas has seemed to choose well so far, certainly coming at it from a different angle.
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Re: Dubas drafts without Hunter
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2020, 04:00:47 PM »
It's not a bad continuation of what was going on in the draft thread.  I think the criticisms are fair of Dubas.  I like his mentality.  I like the thinking behind his picks but we are going to have to see them become productive NHLers soon because the roster is constructed to win today and we really can't wait 5 years for some of these guys to find a way to get into the lineup unless the cap magically goes away.

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Re: Dubas drafts without Hunter
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2020, 04:05:02 PM »

I think one of the things I didn't mention, but I guess is relevant to my general unease about the team's recent drafting is that whenever we have a draft I don't like, usually because of my preference for high performing CHLers whenever possible, it seems like post-draft we get a lot of online writers giving us takes on why it was actually super duper smart that the team drafted a bunch of anonymous overagers or tiny guys without numbers.

And, again, not much to show for it. Contrary to the idea that Dubas' record is "much better" Dubas' record, if we're only basing it on the last few drafts, is effectively nonexistant. Being happy that a 4th round pick from a year ago is still in the organization isn't actually a big checkmark on a drafting record.
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Re: Dubas drafts without Hunter
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2020, 04:24:02 PM »
We definitely need more of a sample size and hopefully some of these picks will be able to pan out within a 2-3 year period. Of course, at least the ones who can make the bigs at all.

What do we term a successful draft, when one player makes the squad after his draft, like Robertson, or within 2 years like Sandin? How many from each draft should be expected to make the jump (at some point)? 
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