Salary Trends

[Frank E]

Thought this was a little interesting in terms of the trend:

http://www.tsn.ca/savvy-sellers-can-exploit-the-nhl-s-financial-environment-1.446106

 

[rjd]

Thought this was a little interesting in terms of the trend:

http://www.tsn.ca/savvy-sellers-can-exploit-the-nhl-s-financial-environment-1.446106

Interesting article.  I remember some members of the PA claiming that they were going through the first lockout for the young players.  These statements were met with derision from members of the media.  While it's hard to say that the PA's motives were to create this kind of economic landscape, it would appear as though the younger players in the league have actually done fairly well under the new CBA.

 

[Frank E]

Thought this was a little interesting in terms of the trend:

http://www.tsn.ca/savvy-sellers-can-exploit-the-nhl-s-financial-environment-1.446106

Interesting article.  I remember some members of the PA claiming that they were going through the first lockout for the young players.  These statements were met with derision from members of the media.  While it's hard to say that the PA's motives were to create this kind of economic landscape, it would appear as though the younger players in the league have actually done fairly well under the new CBA.

Looks that way in terms up the uptick.  The cost of the upswing for the 26-30 year olds seems to have been at the expense of the 31-35 year olds.

So basically teams are investing more in that first UFA contract, or investing more term and dollars in the RFA contracts.  The UFA min. age being lowered would also contribute to this.

Guys coming out of their 20's are getting less, and the 36+ is about the same.

 

[bustaheims]

Guys coming out of their 20's are getting less, and the 36+ is about the same.

Which generally makes more sense than the way things used to be. Guys entering their 30s are more likely to see their production/contributions start to decline over the life of that contract. Teams are starting to pay for expected performance rather than past performance.

 

[herman]

Guys coming out of their 20's are getting less, and the 36+ is about the same.

Which generally makes more sense than the way things used to be. Guys entering their 30s are more likely to see their production/contributions start to decline over the life of that contract. Teams are starting to pay for expected performance rather than past performance.

i.e. Nonis and JFJ are not GMs right now.

 

[Frank E]

Guys coming out of their 20's are getting less, and the 36+ is about the same.

Which generally makes more sense than the way things used to be. Guys entering their 30s are more likely to see their production/contributions start to decline over the life of that contract. Teams are starting to pay for expected performance rather than past performance.

Sure, but I was surprised to see that the 18-25 was relatively flat.  I would have expected a small linear increase over that past couple of seasons.

 

[bustaheims]

Sure, but I was surprised to see that the 18-25 was relatively flat.  I would have expected a small linear increase over that past couple of seasons.

Well, you have to remember that a significant portion of those guys would still be on ELCs, which are stagnant. So, while the cap increases, those contracts don't. Players in the other age groupings end up taking up more of the extra available cap space because of that, which leads to the 18-25 group representing a smaller percentage of the payroll.

 

[Frank E]

Sure, but I was surprised to see that the 18-25 was relatively flat.  I would have expected a small linear increase over that past couple of seasons.

Well, you have to remember that a significant portion of those guys would still be on ELCs, which are stagnant. So, while the cap increases, those contracts don't. Players in the other age groupings end up taking up more of the extra available cap space because of that, which leads to the 18-25 group representing a smaller percentage of the payroll.

Sure, but the amount of kids that are getting bigger money at 22-24 years old I thought would have brought those numbers up.  Obviously, that's not the case.

 

[Al14]

Too much money, given far too soon, to the young guns of the NHL.

As my wife keeps telling me... "Why are you watching a bunch of millionaire hockey players, forever failing to please you, by winning a Stanley Cup for fans of the Toronto Maple Leafs."

Most NHL hockey players earn as much money in ONE SHIFT that takes me ALL YEAR to earn.  Makes no sense.  They're not out there saving lives etc.

 

[Highlander]

agreed that the dollars R way to high. All I can say is if it bothers you, you have the choice not to drive TV ratings, buy merchandise or buy a newspaper to read Leaf news. If it bothers enought of us and we tune out then the system changes.  Not much hope of that.

 

[Nik]

Most NHL hockey players earn as much money in ONE SHIFT that takes me ALL YEAR to earn.  Makes no sense.  They're not out there saving lives etc.

Your beef is with society, not the NHL. It's not like absent pro sports or entertainment Firefighters and Cops earn the most of anyone. Capitalism functions by way of supply and demand and even in your most socialist countries in the world thousands of people go to watch professional sports.

 

[Highlander]

Nik has hit the nail with a hammer. Or "It's just the way it is Baby"

 

[Al14]

Nik has hit the nail with a hammer. Or "It's just the way it is Baby"

Or, is it like what my 4 year old granddaughter likes to say "Life is life, you've just got to live with it." 

 

[hockeyfan1]

Too much money, given far too soon, to the young guns of the NHL.

As my wife keeps telling me... "Why are you watching a bunch of millionaire hockey players, forever failing to please you, by winning a Stanley Cup for fans of the Toronto Maple Leafs."

Most NHL hockey players earn as much money in ONE SHIFT that takes me ALL YEAR to earn.  Makes no sense.  They're not out there saving lives etc.

It's determined largely by what the market value pays.  Besides, sports is also entertainment, by and large.

People working in the public service -- police, firefighters, paramedics, health workers, nurses, doctors, personal care, etc etc hydro, power, water, sewage, and the list goes on, -- there is one redeeming difference: they save lives/keep our city services going/keep us safe/etc., etc.

These qualities are invaluable.  One cannot put a price tag on this.

Hope this makes you feel better.

P.S. Your wife was right.