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Round 3: Tampa Bay Lightning vs. New York Islanders

Islanders fans litter ice with empty cans in potential last game at Coliseum
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2184897

Best fans my ass. Just gross.
 
https://twitter.com/twistedleafs/status/1407861621465178114
https://twitter.com/NHLSafetyWatch/status/1407879203840798722
https://twitter.com/BBurnsNHL/status/1407904254480764928
 
The NHL is the only frigging league that cares more about garbage players than it?s stars.
 
It's a sad state when teams win by doing things that are clearly against the rules and the league encourages it. The fact that people are getting hurt as a result is really testing my resolve to watch games.

Who cares how many Marners a team has when really what they need is more Martins.
 
It'll blow up in the leagues face when the Islanders meet the Habs in the finals and they won't have enough players to finish a 7 game series.
 
L K said:
The NHL is the only frigging league that cares more about garbage players than it?s stars.

Also the only league where enforcement of the rules changes so drastically once the playoffs start. It feels like a completely different set of rules once the playoffs get going. It's absurd.
 
bustaheims said:
L K said:
The NHL is the only frigging league that cares more about garbage players than it?s stars.

Also the only league where enforcement of the rules changes so drastically once the playoffs start. It feels like a completely different set of rules once the playoffs get going. It's absurd.

Basketball also gets a little dicey in the playoffs.  Probably not to the extent of the NHL, but they do start letting more stuff go in the NBA playoffs.
 
Significantly Insignificant said:
Basketball also gets a little dicey in the playoffs.  Probably not to the extent of the NHL, but they do start letting more stuff go in the NBA playoffs.

Standards change in all leagues. It's more that it's drastic in the NHL than in others, whereas, in the other leagues, it's more around the edges. I don't follow the NBA, so I can't really speak to it, but I get the impression that it's mostly the borderline stuff that starts to go uncalled.
 
bustaheims said:
Significantly Insignificant said:
Basketball also gets a little dicey in the playoffs.  Probably not to the extent of the NHL, but they do start letting more stuff go in the NBA playoffs.

Standards change in all leagues. It's more that it's drastic in the NHL than in others, whereas, in the other leagues, it's more around the edges. I don't follow the NBA, so I can't really speak to it, but I get the impression that it's mostly the borderline stuff that starts to go uncalled.

Here is a blog that I found about NBA refs and the calls they make during playoffss.  Take it with a grain of salt, but if you look at the comments they are similar to those of NHL fans:

https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2020/09/should-nba-referees-call-fouls-objectively-in-playoff-games.html

Just to explain, the blog outlines that the refs actually are more strict in the playoffs, so it is a differing view that what is usually thrown out there, and actually an argument to go lighter. 

I'm no expert on basketball, but the general sense that I get when I view games or listen to commentary in the playoffs is similar to that which is felt by NHL fans in that the rules seem to change.


 
L K said:
The NHL is the only frigging league that cares more about garbage players than it?s stars.
Yup and they penalize their stars. This "playoff" hockey crap has got to stop. The crosschecking that goes on is absolutely ridiculous. Lets not talk about the interference and the rest of the garbage. Call the penalties. The players will adjust.
And get rid of the trapezoid. Let's penalize goalies who can handle a puck. Who came up with that bright idea?
 
Guilt Trip said:
L K said:
The NHL is the only frigging league that cares more about garbage players than it?s stars.
Yup and they penalize their stars. This "playoff" hockey crap has got to stop. The crosschecking that goes on is absolutely ridiculous. Lets not talk about the interference and the rest of the garbage. Call the penalties. The players will adjust.
And get rid of the trapezoid. Let's penalize goalies who can handle a puck. Who came up with that bright idea?

I mean it was basically the Martin Brodeur rule.  The NHL let the neutral zone interference get out of hand with the Devils and instead of calling interference penalties decided to ban Brodeur from going into the corners.
 
L K said:
I mean it was basically the Martin Brodeur rule.  The NHL let the neutral zone interference get out of hand with the Devils and instead of calling interference penalties decided to ban Brodeur from going into the corners.

I mentioned this last month or something but this is just another reason it's insane that GMs, many of whom aren't even competent in running their own teams, have so much say in how the league operates.
 
Significantly Insignificant said:
Here is a blog that I found about NBA refs and the calls they make during playoffss.  Take it with a grain of salt, but if you look at the comments they are similar to those of NHL fans:

https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2020/09/should-nba-referees-call-fouls-objectively-in-playoff-games.html

Just to explain, the blog outlines that the refs actually are more strict in the playoffs, so it is a differing view that what is usually thrown out there, and actually an argument to go lighter. 

I'm no expert on basketball, but the general sense that I get when I view games or listen to commentary in the playoffs is similar to that which is felt by NHL fans in that the rules seem to change.

If the NHL swung that, I'm sure there would also be complaints, but, at the very least, they'd be looking out for the safety of the players and giving the stars more opportunity to shine. Eventually, the players and refs would hopefully find a middle ground, like they eventually did with the obstruction stuff coming out of the lockout (though, that has creeped closer and closer to pre-lockout).

I'd definitely be happier with stronger enforcement in the playoffs than weaker. It at least would put the emphasis on skill rather than which team can bog down the game the most.
 
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