Florida interested in Kessel

[rjd]

http://www.tsn.ca/trade-talk-kessel-in-the-sunshine-state-1.208497

I love how these reports are "We'll take your best player, but we don't want to part with one of our top assets."

 

[Frank E]

"Every NHL team interested in adding perennial 30 goal scorer at right price: TSN"

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I wonder what "young stud" means in this instance. I obviously can't blame them for not wanting to include Barkov or Ekblad here. But would a Bjugstad or Huberdeau be available? Either of those two would be a nice starting point in negotiations.

I also think that Florida makes a ton of sense here. They have a boatload of young talent but still need that one big offensive weapon to take the next step.

 

[L K]

I'm also interested in Bjugstad, Huberdeau, Barkov, Ekblad, their 1st round pick, Matheson and Petrovic.  Doesn't mean we can just get them.  Any team getting a 30+ goal scorer locked and guaranteed for 8-years (important for teams that don't tend to snag a lot of free agents) is going to pay through the nose for him. 

 

[CarltonTheBear]

From earlier today:

Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris  22 minutes ago
Dave Nonis tells Hockey Central at Noon that he's had "a number" of trade conversations with other teams on Kessel.

Starting to really seem like we're seeing Kessel's final couple of months in Toronto.

 

[freer]

From earlier today:

Chris Johnston ‏@reporterchris  22 minutes ago
Dave Nonis tells Hockey Central at Noon that he's had "a number" of trade conversations with other teams on Kessel.

Starting to really seem like we're seeing Kessel's final couple of months in Toronto.

If so I wish him a great career. Bring on the youth and picks

 

[rjd]

That's just it.  I can't tell from the tone of the post if all those players listed are the young studs that they won't part with.  I can't see how that would be reasonable.

When they trade Kessel and Phanuef, those are the trades they need to make hay with.  All the other trades are nice as add-ons, but those are the two players that can really set the table for the future. 

Also, what if Kessel doesn't want to go to Florida?  He does have the limited no trade.  If he doesn't want to go there it's possible he has said as much.

 

[bustaheims]

If they're not willing to include Bjugstad, Huberdeau, etc., then they're not really interested. I understand not wanting to include Ekblad or Barkov - they'd be crazy to move either of them - but the others . . . you don't add an elite goal scorer without giving up something very valuable.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

If they're not willing to include Bjugstad, Huberdeau, etc., then they're not really interested. I understand not wanting to include Ekblad or Barkov - they'd be crazy to move either of them - but the others . . . you don't add an elite goal scorer without giving up something very valuable.

Agreed. If Kessel was/ is available, almost every team in the league that needs that guy will be calling and the offers near the end, would be quite high I would think.

Florida is not serious if they don't add at least 2 of the above mentioned young players and their 1st.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

If they're not willing to include Bjugstad, Huberdeau, etc., then they're not really interested. I understand not wanting to include Ekblad or Barkov - they'd be crazy to move either of them - but the others . . . you don't add an elite goal scorer without giving up something very valuable.

I can't see Tallon even engaging in a trade talks for a guy like Kessel if he's completely unwilling to move any of his big-4. I'm sure he'd consider moving Bjugstad or Huberdeau here. Maybe his starting stance is that those guys are off the table, but if he's serious about a trade that will change.

 

[sickbeast]

The real shame here is that the Leafs will never ever ever get two first round and one second round pick for Kessel as they gave up in order to acquire him to begin with.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

The real shame here is that the Leafs will never ever ever get two first round and one second round pick for Kessel as they gave up in order to acquire him to begin with.

But, I don't see that the equivalent in players and picks coming back would be an unrealistic achievement.

 

[Chev-boyar-sky]

If they're not willing to include Bjugstad, Huberdeau, etc., then they're not really interested. I understand not wanting to include Ekblad or Barkov - they'd be crazy to move either of them - but the others . . . you don't add an elite goal scorer without giving up something very valuable.

I can't see Tallon even engaging in a trade talks for a guy like Kessel if he's completely unwilling to move any of his big-4. I'm sure he'd consider moving Bjugstad or Huberdeau here. Maybe his starting stance is that those guys are off the table, but if he's serious about a trade that will change.

There's not really anything else on their roster TBH.

I'd send them Kessel and Bozak for Huberdeau, Bjugstad and a 1st and 2nd from this year and be done with it.

Anyone think they'd do that? Is it enough of a return?

 

[Frank E]

If they're not willing to include Bjugstad, Huberdeau, etc., then they're not really interested. I understand not wanting to include Ekblad or Barkov - they'd be crazy to move either of them - but the others . . . you don't add an elite goal scorer without giving up something very valuable.

I can't see Tallon even engaging in a trade talks for a guy like Kessel if he's completely unwilling to move any of his big-4. I'm sure he'd consider moving Bjugstad or Huberdeau here. Maybe his starting stance is that those guys are off the table, but if he's serious about a trade that will change.

Looking at the standings, I'm wondering who's a bubble club that would be willing to trade their 1st rounder...Florida's right there, otherwise you're getting a pick in the 20+ range.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

There's not really anything else on their roster TBH.

I'd send them Kessel and Bozak for Huberdeau, Bjugstad and a 1st and 2nd from this year and be done with it.

Anyone think they'd do that? Is it enough of a return?

A Kessel/Bozak package would be interesting (and of course hilarious). At first glance I would absolutely do that deal, but I doubt Florida does. Florida would only be interesting in Bozak as a 2C if they move Bjugstad, so let's say he stays in the deal and Huberdeau is downgraded to a slightly lesser prospect like Trocheck. Maybe that does it, who knows though.

 

[Stickytape]

Also, what if Kessel doesn't want to go to Florida?  He does have the limited no trade.  If he doesn't want to go there it's possible he has said as much.

He owns property and spends his summers in Florida anyway, doesn't he? I know that's not always the biggest factor, but I can't imagine he would turn down the offer.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Also, what if Kessel doesn't want to go to Florida?  He does have the limited no trade.  If he doesn't want to go there it's possible he has said as much.

Kessel's already said this: ?I go where they want me. I love Toronto. But [if] it?s not here, it?s not here.? And really, I doubt he'd be too bummed about going to Florida.

 

[sickbeast]

I would really love to see Kessel play with McDavid. It will never happen though. I actually really like Kessel and I really hope that they get a lot in return for him otherwise I won't want to see him go.

 

[Can8899]

The article is not clear at all on who the non-starters are so I'm just going to assume that Bjugstad is not on the list.

I would be happy with something like:

Nick Bjugstad
Tomas Fleischman (for cap reasons only)
Prospect
1st Rounder this year or next.

 

[slapshot]

I think what they are talking about sounds out to lunch. They don't want to give up any of the young studs but just have us hand Kessel over, so they can compete but we can't in our own conference.