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Offline Frank E

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« Reply #1365 on: January 22, 2013, 01:39:39 PM »
I really hope what Gillis says is true and some other team can work things out to get Luongo on their team. Anything to get this whole saga over with and to eliminate any possibility of Luongo coming here.

Gillis is is own worst enemy with these negotiations. Just when the story is starting to simmer, he holds this interview and claims a deal is nearly done.

It had better be, because if it isn't, the only thing he has done is turn the heat back up to a boil again. All the pressure is on him, until he finds a team that accepts his terms on a trade. This guy really is a joke.

Just consider that he's just using that kind of rhetoric to put pressure on a team to make a deal.  I doubt there's any team with a deal in place with the pieces he's looking for...it's just posturing.

The problem Gillis has is that he's already stated the return he's looking for publicly...and if Luongo doesn't play well, and fast, his return may very well be nothing. 

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« Reply #1366 on: January 22, 2013, 03:18:23 PM »
I know his contract sucked, but he certainly could have taken this team to the next level of compete.

There is just wrong in every possible way.
This is just wrong in every possible way.
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« Reply #1367 on: January 22, 2013, 03:21:13 PM »
Maybe there's something to the Philly rumor - and it hinges on Philly being able to unload Bryzgalov (which may be even tougher than trading Luongo)

Maybe one of these teams:
Detroit
Chicago
New Jersey
Florida
Edmonton
Islanders
Columbus

But I can see difficulty with every one of them trying to take on Luongo's contract

Yeah philly is overflowing with good players.  Philly is the odds on favorite.
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« Reply #1368 on: January 22, 2013, 03:42:06 PM »
This is just wrong in every possible way.

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« Reply #1369 on: January 22, 2013, 04:26:23 PM »
It might be the Tampa Bay Lightning.  The player that needs to be moved first would be Lecavelier.  Plus Luongo still has his no trade clause which would greatly reduce the number of teams in the running.
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« Reply #1370 on: January 22, 2013, 04:28:46 PM »
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=414237
Are Vancouver Canucks GM Mike Gillis' comments that he has a Roberto Luongo deal in place accurate?
 
LeBrun - I can tell you, via sources, that Robert Luongo is still a member of the Vancouver Canucks.  They are not closer to trading him, despite the kerfuffle that was caused with Mike Gillis' quote in Cam Cole's column.

Is there another team out there we haven't spent a lot of time on?  What about the Philadelphia Flyers?  If the season ends and Luongo is still a member of the Canucks, I believe the Flyers could still be a factor if Ilya Bryzgalov has another terrible season and they are willing to buy him out.  Until then, I don't see the Flyers as a possible trade partner.  Toronto remains the number one destination and whether Gillis was trying to smoke out the Leafs, that's a possibility, but they believe they are the only trade partner and they are trying to wait out Vancouver. It's a game of chicken.

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« Reply #1371 on: January 22, 2013, 04:32:02 PM »
It might be the Tampa Bay Lightning.  The player that needs to be moved first would be Lecavelier.  Plus Luongo still has his no trade clause which would greatly reduce the number of teams in the running.

Which contract would you rather have? Luongo or LeCavalier?

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« Reply #1372 on: January 22, 2013, 04:39:10 PM »
Which contract would you rather have? Luongo or LeCavalier?

Lecavalier's more likely to be useful for the entirety of his than Luongo.
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« Reply #1373 on: January 22, 2013, 05:32:47 PM »
Which contract would you rather have? Luongo or LeCavalier?

Lecavalier's more likely to be useful for the entirety of his than Luongo.

But LeCavalier starts off, this year, with a cap hit that probably exceeds his worth by perhaps $2 million and it will just keep getting worse.  It looks to me like his shots per game have started a slow, consistent decline already and that is very worrisome.  Now, if Tampa could keep some of his salary ...

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« Reply #1375 on: January 22, 2013, 06:08:19 PM »
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=414237
Are Vancouver Canucks GM Mike Gillis' comments that he has a Roberto Luongo deal in place accurate?
 
LeBrun - I can tell you, via sources, that Robert Luongo is still a member of the Vancouver Canucks.  They are not closer to trading him, despite the kerfuffle that was caused with Mike Gillis' quote in Cam Cole's column.

Is there another team out there we haven't spent a lot of time on?  What about the Philadelphia Flyers?  If the season ends and Luongo is still a member of the Canucks, I believe the Flyers could still be a factor if Ilya Bryzgalov has another terrible season and they are willing to buy him out.  Until then, I don't see the Flyers as a possible trade partner.  Toronto remains the number one destination and whether Gillis was trying to smoke out the Leafs, that's a possibility, but they believe they are the only trade partner and they are trying to wait out Vancouver. It's a game of chicken.


Nonis ought to be able to outmaneuver Gillis here, easily.  Even if he sits on the sidelines and wacthes while Luongo goes to Columbus for futuristic considerations.

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« Reply #1376 on: January 22, 2013, 06:54:10 PM »
It might be the Tampa Bay Lightning.  The player that needs to be moved first would be Lecavelier.  Plus Luongo still has his no trade clause which would greatly reduce the number of teams in the running.

Which contract would you rather have? Luongo or LeCavalier?

Lecavalier!

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« Reply #1377 on: January 23, 2013, 03:01:57 AM »
Which contract would you rather have? Luongo or LeCavalier?

Lecavalier's more likely to be useful for the entirety of his than Luongo.

Useful, yes. Difference maker, no. Stability in net (even for 5 years) > another scoring forward (for 5 years) Goalies usually have longer careers as well. Not even a close one for me. Luo hands down.
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« Reply #1378 on: January 23, 2013, 03:06:24 AM »
No to both but gun held to my head? Yeah, I'd take Lou's deal over Vinny's as well.

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« Reply #1379 on: January 23, 2013, 04:51:01 AM »
Useful, yes. Difference maker, no. Stability in net (even for 5 years) > another scoring forward (for 5 years) Goalies usually have longer careers as well. Not even a close one for me. Luo hands down.

5 years might be on the optimistic side for Luongo. Goalies are a little unpredictable, and when they start to fall, it tends to go fast. Based on the history of guys who have played the position, Luongo really has somewhere between 2 and 6 seasons of effective starting goalie type play left in him - with the most likely number being 4 (and that includes this season). After that, you have a number of years where he's not likely to even be particularly effective as a backup - and, if he doesn't retire, you're left with a big chunk of dead cap space (and, if he does retire, a smaller chunk of dead cap space). At least, with Lecavalier, if he's healthy, he'll be able to fill a 3rd/4th line role for the entirety of his contract.
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