Author Topic: 2021 Offseason Moves  (Read 11097 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Online bustaheims

  • Sittler Status
  • ******
  • Posts: 23802
  • 56!
    • View Profile
Re: 2021 Offseason Moves
« Reply #315 on: October 10, 2021, 03:36:40 PM »

Couple mediocre depth pieces for a draft failure. Classic Benning
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Offline princedpw

  • Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 2729
    • View Profile
Re: 2021 Offseason Moves
« Reply #316 on: October 10, 2021, 08:46:40 PM »

Given his age and the season's you're paying for the only comparable deal is really the Tavares one and it's more or less the same. There's an upside for teams negotiating deals in a stagnant cap that make direct comparisons a little unfair.

+1

The pandemic timing was not in the leafs favor

TMLfans.ca

Re: 2021 Offseason Moves
« Reply #316 on: October 10, 2021, 08:46:40 PM »

Online herman

  • Sittler Status
  • ******
  • Posts: 26952
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: 2021 Offseason Moves
« Reply #317 on: October 12, 2021, 02:40:26 PM »
I actually have no idea who this is.
"Can't let the poison get to you"
#BeBlessed

Offline Zee

  • Sittler Status
  • ******
  • Posts: 14001
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: 2021 Offseason Moves
« Reply #318 on: October 15, 2021, 10:02:02 AM »
?s=20

Online bustaheims

  • Sittler Status
  • ******
  • Posts: 23802
  • 56!
    • View Profile
Re: 2021 Offseason Moves
« Reply #319 on: October 15, 2021, 10:14:22 AM »
Some of these contracts for young defencemen are quite something. McAvoy's is deserved, based on the way the market has gone, but, it's still crazy to think about.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Offline Bender

  • All Star
  • *****
  • Posts: 9507
  • Gender: Male
  • Bender cracked corn and he is great!
    • View Profile
Re: 2021 Offseason Moves
« Reply #320 on: October 15, 2021, 10:16:31 AM »
Some of these contracts for young defencemen are quite something. McAvoy's is deserved, based on the way the market has gone, but, it's still crazy to think about.
We're so screwed with Rielly. Really think he needs to be traded.
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

Online bustaheims

  • Sittler Status
  • ******
  • Posts: 23802
  • 56!
    • View Profile
Re: 2021 Offseason Moves
« Reply #321 on: October 15, 2021, 10:24:00 AM »
We're so screwed with Rielly. Really think he needs to be traded.

Mayybe. Rielly shouldn't command quite as much as some of these guys have been getting - he's a little older, not as consistent, etc. - but he's definitely going to come in north of $7M per. That'll be tough for the Leafs to fit in, but it will also be really tough for them to trade their #1 defenceman in a season they expect to be contending for a Cup. Unless Sandin really breaks through this season, I don't think the team can comfortably absorb that loss.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Online CarltonTheBear

  • Administrator
  • Sittler Status
  • *****
  • Posts: 31334
    • View Profile
Re: 2021 Offseason Moves
« Reply #322 on: October 15, 2021, 10:24:29 AM »
Some of these contracts for young defencemen are quite something. McAvoy's is deserved, based on the way the market has gone, but, it's still crazy to think about.
We're so screwed with Rielly. Really think he needs to be traded.

At the same time though Ekholm and Pulock both signed in the low 6's in the past couple days and they're probably better comparables for Rielly than a McAvoy or Hamilton.

Offline L K

  • Sittler Status
  • ******
  • Posts: 14936
    • View Profile
Re: 2021 Offseason Moves
« Reply #323 on: October 15, 2021, 10:37:08 AM »
Ekholm is a 0.53 PPG player over the last 3 years
Rielly is at 0.73 PPG over the last three years.

If you just take the last two years to take out Rielly's aberration season it's 0.61 vs 0.48

I just don't see where Rielly is going to get less than 7M and the Leafs can't afford that.  The time to trade him was in the offseason under the guise of a roster shakeup.  Now we are just riding this out and have to hope that the team can go on a run before we lose a second big piece in consecutive years.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2021, 10:39:00 AM by L K »

Online CarltonTheBear

  • Administrator
  • Sittler Status
  • *****
  • Posts: 31334
    • View Profile
Re: 2021 Offseason Moves
« Reply #324 on: October 15, 2021, 11:04:47 AM »
Points wise over the past 2 seasons they're about even at 5-on-5 though. So at even strength they provide about the same offence despite the fact that Rielly's 4 most common forwards he plays with at Matthews, Marner, Tavares, and Nylander while Ekholm's are Granlund, Johansen, Arvidsson, and Jarnkrok. Ekholm also does that in tougher minutes. Rielly provides additional value on the powerplay but Ekholm provides additional value on the PK. All things considered I don't think they're bad comparables and there's probably a lot of people who would take Ekholm over Rielly. Obviously Ekholm is a few years older so that makes things a bit trickier but that's also why he only got a 4 year deal as opposed to Rielly who will probably get 7 (or 8 if he signs here).

I think if Rielly explodes with another 70+ point then he'll certainly be in line for a $7mil deal that could even push into the 8's with the right team. But he's not going to get paid as an elite offensive defenceman (with defensive warts) if he just hovers around 50 points like he has for the past 2 seasons.

Offline Nik

  • Sittler Status
  • ******
  • Posts: 29310
  • Jerk Emeritus
    • View Profile
Re: 2021 Offseason Moves
« Reply #325 on: October 15, 2021, 12:29:32 PM »

I wonder if some of these deals aren't signs that NHL GMs are pretty sure the Cap is going to start moving up again.
I wish to hell I’d never said "Winning isn’t everything it’s the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you’ve won.
- Vince Lombardi

Online bustaheims

  • Sittler Status
  • ******
  • Posts: 23802
  • 56!
    • View Profile
Re: 2021 Offseason Moves
« Reply #326 on: November 01, 2021, 07:12:15 PM »
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan