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Re: Ilya Mikheyev extends with the Leafs | 2 years 1.645AAV
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2020, 11:49:50 AM »
Do you think this deal leaves enough space for Getzlaf in 2022?

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Re: Ilya Mikheyev extends with the Leafs | 2 years 1.645AAV
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2020, 12:15:46 PM »
Cool. Seems high though

I think you guys are all nuts. It seems low to me, especially in comparison to Kerfoot's $3.5M AAV.

I'd argue Kerfoot is priced $2m-2.5m too high, at least in the current market.

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Re: Ilya Mikheyev extends with the Leafs | 2 years 1.645AAV
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2020, 12:16:59 PM »
I think if the Leafs do win a cup in 21 that you won't see Jumbo, Spezza, Simmons or perhaps Bogosian back for 22. There here for the Cup and working cheap.
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Re: Ilya Mikheyev extends with the Leafs | 2 years 1.645AAV
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2020, 12:19:50 PM »
The Leafs are clearly gearing up their roster for the eventuality of adjusted roster rules similar to the bubble. They are privy to NHL and AHL return to play discussions; the NHL will be a compressed schedule regardless of when it starts in 2021 and the AHL looks highly unlikely to operate without fans. That leaves NHL teams with a crippled CHL, some ECHL, some NCAA(?), and overseas as options for their non-roster contracts.
The big meeting is Friday for the NHL and AHL and all that stuff. They have a lot hurdles to overcome especially if there is no other leagues operating.

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Re: Ilya Mikheyev extends with the Leafs | 2 years 1.645AAV
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2020, 01:40:34 PM »
Do you think this deal leaves enough space for Getzlaf in 2022?

Why do the leafs need him? Seems like veteran overkill at this point.

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Re: Ilya Mikheyev extends with the Leafs | 2 years 1.645AAV
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2020, 01:53:33 PM »
Do you think this deal leaves enough space for Getzlaf in 2022?

Why do the leafs need him? Seems like veteran overkill at this point.

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Re: Ilya Mikheyev extends with the Leafs | 2 years 1.645AAV
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2020, 01:59:38 PM »
Do you think this deal leaves enough space for Getzlaf in 2022?

Why do the leafs need him? Seems like veteran overkill at this point.

Next summer, dude. Next summer.
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Re: Ilya Mikheyev extends with the Leafs | 2 years 1.645AAV
« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2020, 02:00:17 PM »
Do you think this deal leaves enough space for Getzlaf in 2022?

Why do the leafs need him? Seems like veteran overkill at this point.

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Re: Ilya Mikheyev extends with the Leafs | 2 years 1.645AAV
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2020, 02:01:02 PM »
Do you think this deal leaves enough space for Getzlaf in 2022?

Why do the leafs need him? Seems like veteran overkill at this point.

Look it, if you're not going to get my jokes we're going to have a problem.

Sorry I?m usually way more on the ball

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Re: Ilya Mikheyev extends with the Leafs | 2 years 1.645AAV
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2020, 02:06:20 PM »
Do you think this deal leaves enough space for Getzlaf in 2022?

Why do the leafs need him? Seems like veteran overkill at this point.

Look it, if you're not going to get my jokes we're going to have a problem.

Sorry I?m usually way more on the ball
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Re: Ilya Mikheyev extends with the Leafs | 2 years 1.645AAV
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2020, 03:06:29 PM »
Cool. Seems high though

I think you guys are all nuts. It seems low to me, especially in comparison to Kerfoot's $3.5M AAV.

I'd argue Kerfoot is priced $2m-2.5m too high, at least in the current market.

So you're saying Kerfoot is worth $1M in this market? I mean, maybe if he didn't have a dance partner? Then again I have a feeling there's gonna be quite a few guys who get boxed out because they were late to the dance. It's such a bizarro year that I do find it a bit odd that we're comparing contracts in times of normalcy to contracts signed now.
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Re: Ilya Mikheyev extends with the Leafs | 2 years 1.645AAV
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2020, 03:43:07 PM »
Cool. Seems high though

I think you guys are all nuts. It seems low to me, especially in comparison to Kerfoot's $3.5M AAV.

I'd argue Kerfoot is priced $2m-2.5m too high, at least in the current market.

So you're saying Kerfoot is worth $1M in this market? I mean, maybe if he didn't have a dance partner? Then again I have a feeling there's gonna be quite a few guys who get boxed out because they were late to the dance. It's such a bizarro year that I do find it a bit odd that we're comparing contracts in times of normalcy to contracts signed now.

You bring up a good point, we are being stupid comparing what guys signed for before as opposed to after covid.

I'm just thinking comparing Kerfoot to what guys like Derek Grant, Lucas Wallmark, Johan Larsson, Kyle Turris got int free agency this year would peg Kerfoot more in the $1-$1.5m range.

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Re: Ilya Mikheyev extends with the Leafs | 2 years 1.645AAV
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2020, 03:44:09 PM »
I don't think you'd have a chance at signing a young 40 point C to a 1 million dollar deal in this market. The question is whether Kerfoot is more that or if he's a 30 point sort of guy.
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Re: Ilya Mikheyev extends with the Leafs | 2 years 1.645AAV
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2020, 04:37:27 PM »
Kerfoot has more offensive upside than Grant, Wallmark, Larsson; we're talking 30-40 pts vs 10-25 pts and older. The latter two were options I would've liked as 3Cs in shutdown/PK specialist roles. The broken jaw against LA did him none too many favours down the stretch trying to get back to playing weight/strength.
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