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Matheson traded to Pittsburgh for Hornqvist
« on: September 23, 2020, 11:25:53 AM »

I'm hesitant to post this as none of the other "big" names have confirmed it and it almost seems too bad for Pittsburgh to believe but then again Rutherford...
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Re: Matheson reportedly traded to Pittsburgh for Hornqvist
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2020, 11:35:54 AM »
I mean they have Kapanen now, so of course Hornqvist would be expendable lol.
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Re: Matheson reportedly traded to Pittsburgh for Hornqvist
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2020, 11:42:49 AM »
Pierre LeBrun less than 2 years ago talking about a potential Nylander to Florida trade: "Presumably the Leafs would want the package to start with defenceman Michael Matheson. "Not a chance," one source said Tuesday when asked about Florida moving Matheson."

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Re: Matheson reportedly traded to Pittsburgh for Hornqvist
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2020, 11:43:53 AM »

I'm hesitant to post this as none of the other "big" names have confirmed it and it almost seems too bad for Pittsburgh to believe but then again Rutherford...
Is Matheson that bad?  Not sure Pitt even needs more LD but Hornqvist is 33 gets 5.3 for 3 more years. Matheson 4.875 for 6. If true maybe a bigger trade coming? Rutherford said there will be changes.

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Re: Matheson reportedly traded to Pittsburgh for Hornqvist
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2020, 11:49:06 AM »

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Re: Matheson reportedly traded to Pittsburgh for Hornqvist
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2020, 11:54:17 AM »
Is Matheson that bad?

Even if he's not necessarily the worst defenceman in the league it's hard to see him as anything more than a 4-5 guy (who at times was a healthy scratch). That has to make his contract, 8 years at $4.875mil with 6 years remaining, one of the worst long-term ones left in the league.

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Re: Matheson reportedly traded to Pittsburgh for Hornqvist
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2020, 11:55:56 AM »
Is Matheson that bad?  Not sure Pitt even needs more LD but Hornqvist is 33 gets 5.3 for 3 more years. Matheson 4.875 for 6. If true maybe a bigger trade coming? Rutherford said there will be changes.

Matheson is, once again, one of those 'which team do you play for' kind of defensemen.

Like a Zaitsev situation: they signed him long term (which we lol'd at back then) to ostensibly play with Ekblad, but was so bad that they had to use Weegar, a right shot, to play top minutes.

Now Rutherford has Matheson to draw fan ire from Jack Johnson, I guess.
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Re: Matheson reportedly traded to Pittsburgh for Hornqvist
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2020, 12:00:23 PM »
I didn't realize that Hornqvist played at a 25-goal, 50-point pace this season. Maybe his skating is getting a little worse and he's poised to slow down but that still seems like useful production even if it's just coming from the powerplay.

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Re: Matheson reportedly traded to Pittsburgh for Hornqvist
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2020, 12:04:41 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2020, 12:05:44 PM »

I want Dubas to say this about Marincin's next contract.

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Re: Matheson reportedly traded to Pittsburgh for Hornqvist
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2020, 12:07:11 PM »
Is Matheson that bad?  Not sure Pitt even needs more LD but Hornqvist is 33 gets 5.3 for 3 more years. Matheson 4.875 for 6. If true maybe a bigger trade coming? Rutherford said there will be changes.

Matheson is, once again, one of those 'which team do you play for' kind of defensemen.

Like a Zaitsev situation: they signed him long term (which we lol'd at back then) to ostensibly play with Ekblad, but was so bad that they had to use Weegar, a right shot, to play top minutes.

Now Rutherford has Matheson to draw fan ire from Jack Johnson, I guess.
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Is Matheson that bad?

Even if he's not necessarily the worst defenceman in the league it's hard to see him as anything more than a 4-5 guy (who at times was a healthy scratch). That has to make his contract, 8 years at $4.875mil with 6 years remaining, one of the worst long-term ones left in the league.
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Re: Matheson reportedly traded to Pittsburgh for Hornqvist
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2020, 12:48:40 PM »
Matheson showed some potential in his first couple years in the league, but he has definitely not developed from there.

Hornqvist is on the decline, but still has some short-term value.

I'd call this a classic lose-lose - both teams get guys who will probably be cap albatrosses before their contracts finish, and will almost certainly struggle to live up to their value up to that point. Slight edge to Florida for picking up a shorter, but more expensive, contract.
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Re: Matheson reportedly traded to Pittsburgh for Hornqvist
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2020, 12:56:27 PM »
I kind of like this idea. It's clear his instincts for neutralizing attacks is wonky, but he's got the build and wherewithal to be a pretty decent displacement forward. His shooting percentage is also relatively high for a defenseman so I think he could be someone you could just throw pucks at for chaos jam goals.
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Re: Matheson reportedly traded to Pittsburgh for Hornqvist
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2020, 01:42:29 PM »

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Re: Matheson reportedly traded to Pittsburgh for Hornqvist
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2020, 01:50:09 PM »

If he never answers his phone, he can't be traded.

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