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Offline CarltonTheBear

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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2020, 01:31:22 PM »
And on a team where we are getting no secondary scoring, having Gauthier playing at all, let alone on the 3rd line........

As I explained above I think there's a very reasonable argument for having Marincin in the line-up over Liljegren. I got nothing for this though.

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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2020, 01:43:19 PM »
I'm kind of not understanding why Timothy was pulled out of the lineup.   Maybe the advanced stats say otherwise but I liked the way he was playing.   

He's only averaging 9:50 a team at 5-on-5 in the 6 games since his call-up. His CF% is 46.15 and xGF% is 38.89. He's also playing very sheltered (and as I said limited) minutes. I wouldn't exactly read a ton into those numbers right now, especially the xGF, because of the limited sample. But still the limited and sheltered minutes make it clear Keefe doesn't exactly have a ton of trust in him right now. Just for comparison's sake in the 6 games before his injury Ceci was playing 16:28 a game.

The other issue here could be how PK minutes have been doled out since Ceci's injury:

Holl 3:41
Muzzin 3:20
Dermott 1:46
Sandin 0:44
Liljegren 0:36
Barrie 0:15

Swapping Marincin, who can play 2+ minutes on the PK, for Liljegren will help relieve the top pairing of some minutes and take that responsibility off of Sandin.

This makes some sense.  I don't agree with it, though, and I'm no Marty-hater.  This is the year to let 37/38 play in meaningful games and let them make mistakes and learn from them. 

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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2020, 02:34:49 PM »
Yikes... this lineup is scaring me a little bit. I hope the Leafs win tonight, but this could go horribly wrong.

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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2020, 02:45:11 PM »
Go Leafs Go!

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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2020, 02:54:20 PM »
Both James Reimer and Jonathan Bernier have a better save percentage than Andersen this year. It's been a rough year.


That Bernier number is pretty damn impressive when you consider the team he's on. Look no further then Howard's stats for a direct comparison

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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2020, 04:08:07 PM »
Today is Martin Marincin's Birthday, that might be also the reason he is in tonight.

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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2020, 06:48:06 PM »
Whose defence lineup is better tonight, the Pens or the Leafs?
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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2020, 06:56:51 PM »
So depressing...3rd 4th SN/CBC game in a row. I'd kill to hear Gord and Ray call this game instead of what's likely to be 60 minutes of inane Millen drivel.
It's not denial...I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.

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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2020, 07:02:18 PM »
Malkin?
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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2020, 07:02:22 PM »
No Malkin for the Pens tonight. Out sick.

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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2020, 07:03:48 PM »
Just had a thought - Liljegren is currently at 7 games.  Is the scratch this game to make sure he doesn't hit 10 games this season? (or does it matter at this point).

I imagine the idea is that they get someone before the deadline and Liljegren will be sent down, but if he played tonight, Thursday and Saturday, that would have burned a year of his deal, no?

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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2020, 07:07:07 PM »
No Malkin for the Pens tonight. Out sick.
He saw Freddie the Goat was in and checked out.

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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2020, 07:07:46 PM »
No Malkin for the Pens tonight. Out sick.
He saw Freddie the Goat was in and checked out.

I was sick when I saw that too.

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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2020, 07:11:05 PM »
Just had a thought - Liljegren is currently at 7 games.  Is the scratch this game to make sure he doesn't hit 10 games this season? (or does it matter at this point).

I imagine the idea is that they get someone before the deadline and Liljegren will be sent down, but if he played tonight, Thursday and Saturday, that would have burned a year of his deal, no?

Not the case here. Liljegren was 20 heading into this season so his ELC is no longer slide eligible. It did slide for the first 2 years though.

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Re: Leafs @ Penguins - Feb. 18th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2020, 07:17:08 PM »
The PP needs to stop being so careless. They've given a lot of those away. Think a lot of it has to do with them being a one-trick-pony on zone entries. Too easy to predict and disrupt.
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