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Re: Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa
« Reply #225 on: July 02, 2019, 06:34:48 PM »
No problem, Frank.

It really just shows how fun the Senators have been.
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Re: Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa
« Reply #226 on: July 02, 2019, 06:48:59 PM »
Quote from: herman on July 02, 2019, 06:34:48 PM
No problem, Frank.

It really just shows how fun the Senators have been.

There's really no thanking the Senators enough. Taking Zaitsev is one thing but it was the terrible bungling of the Duchene stuff that gave Colorado Girard and Bowen which made Barrie expendable. Most of Toronto's off-season was made possible by virtue of them being dopes.
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Re: Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa
« Reply #227 on: July 02, 2019, 07:02:37 PM »
Quote from: Nik the Trik on July 02, 2019, 06:48:59 PM
Quote from: herman on July 02, 2019, 06:34:48 PM
No problem, Frank.

It really just shows how fun the Senators have been.

There's really no thanking the Senators enough. Taking Zaitsev is one thing but it was there terrible bungling of the Duchene stuff that gave Colorado Girard and Bowen which made Barrie expendable. Most of Toronto's off-season was made possible by virtue of them being dopes.

Some popular Twitter personality needs to post this so Melnyk can lose it.
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Re: Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa
« Reply #228 on: July 02, 2019, 07:05:18 PM »
Quote from: Bates on July 02, 2019, 07:02:37 PM
Quote from: Nik the Trik on July 02, 2019, 06:48:59 PM
Quote from: herman on July 02, 2019, 06:34:48 PM
No problem, Frank.

It really just shows how fun the Senators have been.

There's really no thanking the Senators enough. Taking Zaitsev is one thing but it was there terrible bungling of the Duchene stuff that gave Colorado Girard and Bowen which made Barrie expendable. Most of Toronto's off-season was made possible by virtue of them being dopes.

Some popular Twitter personality needs to post this so Melnyk can lose it.

My favourite thing about all this was Melnyk talking about the Leafs D and then hiring the Leafs D coach and accquring 2 of the Leafs top 4 D.
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Re: Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa
« Reply #229 on: July 02, 2019, 07:42:19 PM »
Montreal effing up their offersheet of Aho also opened the door for Colorado tompursue Kadri.
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Re: Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa
« Reply #230 on: July 03, 2019, 08:39:55 AM »
In his conversation on Overdrive yesterday Dubas mentioned that Ceci "has an arbitration case ahead of him" so it sounds like that report about his contract being pretty much done was incorrect.
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Re: Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa
« Reply #231 on: July 03, 2019, 08:42:57 AM »
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on July 03, 2019, 08:39:55 AM
In his conversation on Overdrive yesterday Dubas mentioned that Ceci "has an arbitration case ahead of him" so it sounds like that report about his contract being pretty much done was incorrect.

Interesting....
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Re: Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa
« Reply #232 on: July 04, 2019, 11:19:06 AM »
Quote from: Frank E on July 02, 2019, 05:59:56 PM
Who was he playing with last year...I thought I read Chabot, no?

Herman answered this already for this past season but I was curious to see who his primary partners were in other seasons.

18/19 Maxime Lajoie
17/18 Dion Phaneuf
16/17 Dion Phaneuf
15/16 Patrick Wiercioch
14/15 Jared Cowen
13/14 Chris Phillips

Like... wow. Phillips, Cowen, and Wiercioch were all out of the NHL 1-2 years after those seasons. We're all well aware of how Phaneuf's career has been the past few years. I'm 80% sure Lajoie isn't real. And in the 2nd half of his career he's been getting the toughest minutes on the sens.

I'm not trying to argue that Ceci is actually an effective defenceman or that he's not drastically overpaid. But I'm still hearing people say that he might be a downgrade from Zaitsev. Zaitsev's played with Morgan Rielly and Jake Gardiner his entire career and still sucked. If you combined all 5 of those defencemen together Voltron-style they still probably wouldn't come close to one of those two.
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Re: Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa
« Reply #233 on: July 04, 2019, 11:28:48 AM »
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Re: Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa
« Reply #234 on: July 04, 2019, 11:38:22 AM »
Quote from: Deebo on July 04, 2019, 11:28:48 AM
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Sign-and-trade dreams dead.
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Re: Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa
« Reply #235 on: July 04, 2019, 12:10:34 PM »
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on July 04, 2019, 11:19:06 AM
I'm not trying to argue that Ceci is actually an effective defenceman or that he's not drastically overpaid. But I'm still hearing people say that he might be a downgrade from Zaitsev. Zaitsev's played with Morgan Rielly and Jake Gardiner his entire career and still sucked. If you combined all 5 of those defencemen together Voltron-style they still probably wouldn't come close to one of those two.

Zatisev + our best = Ceci with Ottawa's worst (who were worse than our worst), but younger.
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Re: Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa
« Reply #236 on: July 04, 2019, 12:20:25 PM »
Let's just watch and see how Ceci turns out. I'm optimistic he will be good. He's never played with any good on a regular basis.
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Re: Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa
« Reply #237 on: July 04, 2019, 12:55:09 PM »
Just going to tweet Ceci's height at Fenton until February...
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Re: Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa
« Reply #238 on: July 04, 2019, 01:23:27 PM »
Quote from: Guilt Trip on July 04, 2019, 12:20:25 PM
Let's just watch and see how Ceci turns out. I'm optimistic he will be good. He's never played with any good on a regular basis.

https://theleafsnation.com/2019/07/04/the-leafs-wont-be-able-to-fix-cody-ceci/
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Re: Zaitsev and Brown traded to Ottawa
« Reply #239 on: July 04, 2019, 01:27:42 PM »
Quote from: Bender on July 04, 2019, 01:23:27 PM
Quote from: Guilt Trip on July 04, 2019, 12:20:25 PM
Let's just watch and see how Ceci turns out. I'm optimistic he will be good. He's never played with any good on a regular basis.

https://theleafsnation.com/2019/07/04/the-leafs-wont-be-able-to-fix-cody-ceci/

And who is Thomas Williams? Again, let's see what happens.
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