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Armchair GM 2019-2020
« on: May 23, 2019, 10:36:50 AM »
If Horton's contract is still on the Leafs next season, we are most assuredly using LTIR. Is there any downside to just loading up on LTIR contracts to pad the our artificial cap ceiling to essentially cover Marleau's deal (and maybe pick up draft picks)? Clarke MacArthur, Marian Gaborik, David Clarkson, for example. Hyman and Dermott will be on the LTIR to start the season as well.

We have little to no performance bonuses this coming season, and Marleau's contract is off the books 2020, so we shouldn't care about roll over.

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Re: Armchair GM 2019-2020
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2019, 10:44:26 AM »
If Horton's contract is still on the Leafs next season, we are most assuredly using LTIR. Is there any downside to just loading up on LTIR contracts to pad the our artificial cap ceiling to essentially cover Marleau's deal (and maybe pick up draft picks)? Clarke MacArthur, Marian Gaborik, David Clarkson, for example. Hyman and Dermott will be on the LTIR to start the season as well.

We have little to no performance bonuses this coming season, and Marleau's contract is off the books 2020, so we shouldn't care about roll over.

Well, one obvious downside is the 50 contract limit, which LTIR players still count towards. Secondly, it doesn't really artificially pad the ceiling - the functional amount of cap space the Leafs would be able to use would remain the same, they'd just be paying out more real dollars to guys who aren't on the roster.
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2019, 10:54:05 AM »
Well, one obvious downside is the 50 contract limit, which LTIR players still count towards. Secondly, it doesn't really artificially pad the ceiling - the functional amount of cap space the Leafs would be able to use would remain the same, they'd just be paying out more real dollars to guys who aren't on the roster.

Ah yes, that pesky limit. The Leafs are at 37 before filling out the roster, so 43 before addressing any Marlies or prospect signings. There's probably room for one if we want a pick and another team is desperate to not deal with insurance or paying out an injury.

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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2019, 11:22:15 AM »
Ah yes, that pesky limit. The Leafs are at 37 before filling out the roster, so 43 before addressing any Marlies or prospect signings. There's probably room for one if we want a pick and another team is desperate to not deal with insurance or paying out an injury.

Unless there's a really good draft pick coming back, it's not really worth it.
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2019, 03:03:12 PM »
Unless there's a really good draft pick coming back, it's not really worth it.

Ah, okay.

On to the next thing:

Paul Fenton is shipping out ready to play parts. Minnesota is looking for right-shot scoring options with youth and speed.

Kapanen+ for Spurgeon?

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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2019, 03:07:21 PM »
Unless there's a really good draft pick coming back, it's not really worth it.

Ah, okay.

On to the next thing:

Paul Fenton is shipping out ready to play parts. Minnesota is looking for right-shot scoring options with youth and speed.

Kapanen+ for Spurgeon?

If they can clear the cap space to make it work, and get Spurgeon on a reasonably priced, reasonable term extension, I'm in. If not, then I'd save Kapanen to use in a deal for someone who has more years as a Leaf ahead of him.
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Re: Armchair GM 2019-2020
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2019, 03:08:58 PM »
If the rumours of them looking at Kessel are true then that tells me that they're going for it in the next 2 seasons. Gotta think that means Spurgeon isn't going anywhere.

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Re: Armchair GM 2019-2020
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2019, 04:57:55 PM »
Fenton has made assurances to Spurgeon, but Iím looking at their roster and I donít know what he thinks he can do to climb out of the mushy middle.

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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2019, 07:59:15 PM »
I don't know about Kessel in Minnesota; him and Boudreau might destroy some buffets all over town

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Re: Armchair GM 2019-2020
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2019, 08:57:24 AM »
Fenton has made assurances to Spurgeon, but Iím looking at their roster and I donít know what he thinks he can do to climb out of the mushy middle.

Spurgeon at 30 in 2019 for Kapanen at 23? I don't really like the sound of that....
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« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2019, 10:28:10 AM »
Fenton has made assurances to Spurgeon, but Iím looking at their roster and I donít know what he thinks he can do to climb out of the mushy middle.

Spurgeon at 30 in 2019 for Kapanen at 23? I don't really like the sound of that....

That's a fair point; at a certain place in the build, you do need to make a push to try to get over the hump though.

Kapanen isn't going to stay cheap (breakaway goals) and I'd argue that his team contributions next year probably aren't going to outweigh adding a 1RD even if only for a year. I get that this is exactly what most people want to say about Nylander, but for me (and Dubas it seems) Nylander = elite and Kapanen = pretty good but mostly replaceable (hello Trevor Moore, Ilya Mikheyev).

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Re: Armchair GM 2019-2020
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2019, 10:41:26 AM »
I think they should take a hard look at moving Kadri as a way to sign Kapanen and/or Johnson before they get offer sheeted.

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« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2019, 10:58:31 AM »
I think they should take a hard look at moving Kadri as a way to sign Kapanen and/or Johnson before they get offer sheeted.

And then what? Move Nylander to the middle and have just a single legit top-6 winger in the line-up?

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Re: Armchair GM 2019-2020
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2019, 11:50:29 AM »
I think they should take a hard look at moving Kadri as a way to sign Kapanen and/or Johnson before they get offer sheeted.

And then what? Move Nylander to the middle and have just a single legit top-6 winger in the line-up?


Kapanen and Johnsson aren't?

And yes, Nylander plays better as a center.

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Re: Armchair GM 2019-2020
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2019, 11:59:45 AM »
Kapanen and Johnsson aren't?

And yes, Nylander plays better as a center.

They're sub-50 point players despite spending most of their time with Matthews. I think that they're good 3rd liners who can certainly look not completely out of place in the top-6. We're probably at a semantics battle, but the way I see it is if one of them is the 2nd best player on a top-6 line then that line is in trouble. Is this even really debatable? Didn't we spend a decent amount of time this season and especially in the playoffs talking about how they were holding Matthews back on that line?

I definitely like Nylander as a centre, but I'm not sure I'd say he plays better there. His best hockey has come with Matthews as his centre. And Matthews' best hockey has come with Nylander as his winger. Don't over think things, just keep them together.

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Re: Armchair GM 2019-2020
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2019, 11:59:45 AM »