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Offline Nik Bethune

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Re: 2019 Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Discussion
« Reply #885 on: August 01, 2019, 03:25:09 PM »
I get what you're saying Nik and I don't disagree. The better of the two will bring you more in return. My personal opinion is that's Johnsson. I'm sure that's not the opinion of everyone.

Personally I think they're pretty similar.
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« Reply #886 on: August 01, 2019, 03:43:34 PM »
I get what you're saying Nik and I don't disagree. The better of the two will bring you more in return. My personal opinion is that's Johnsson. I'm sure that's not the opinion of everyone.

Personally I think they're pretty similar.

I would disagree. I think Johnsson has more finesse and offensive ability. Kapanen has more speed and more defensive ability. Their value to the team is probably pretty similar for different reasons.

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Re: 2019 Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Discussion
« Reply #887 on: August 01, 2019, 03:43:45 PM »
Ceci or Shattenkirk?

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Re: 2019 Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Discussion
« Reply #892 on: August 01, 2019, 06:17:17 PM »
Ceci or Shattenkirk?

Is the assumption that Shattenkirk will be expensive?
Any chance he takes less to play for a contender?
1 year @ 1M on the 3rd pairing would be worth it.  Buryable if needed...

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Re: 2019 Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Discussion
« Reply #895 on: August 02, 2019, 07:42:01 AM »
I would disagree. I think Johnsson has more finesse and offensive ability. Kapanen has more speed and more defensive ability. Their value to the team is probably pretty similar for different reasons.

I said pretty similar, not identical. We're not talking about Tie Domi vs. Sergei Berezin.
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Re: 2019 Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Discussion
« Reply #896 on: August 02, 2019, 08:00:13 AM »
I would disagree. I think Johnsson has more finesse and offensive ability. Kapanen has more speed and more defensive ability. Their value to the team is probably pretty similar for different reasons.

I said pretty similar, not identical. We're not talking about Tie Domi vs. Sergei Berezin.

I mean, if you mean pretty similar in that they're both young'ish and can skate...sure.

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Re: 2019 Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Discussion
« Reply #897 on: August 02, 2019, 08:23:14 AM »
I mean, if you mean pretty similar in that they're both young'ish and can skate...sure.

Well, and that minor niggling detail where they had virtually the exact same year last year.
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Re: 2019 Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Discussion
« Reply #898 on: August 02, 2019, 08:43:28 AM »
I think they're pretty close in value (I might put Kapanen slightly above Johnsson), but they're not very close in playing style at all.

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Re: 2019 Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Discussion
« Reply #899 on: August 02, 2019, 10:17:49 AM »
Without delving too far into the Leafs off-season, so far.. I believe that if Shattenkirk is willing to explore signing with a contender and signing for, anywhere near 1.4 million or less, Dubas needs to do whatever he can to sign the guy.
I could live with waiving guys like Harpur and Holl, if it meant having a player like that, even for a year. I don't think Harpur and Holl are in our future anyway. I get that it's nice to have depth, but;

Reilly-Shattenkirk
Muzzin-Barrie
Dermitt-Ceci

Looks like a promising group to me.
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Re: 2019 Toronto Maple Leafs Offseason Discussion
« Reply #899 on: August 02, 2019, 10:17:49 AM »