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« Reply #150 on: March 10, 2019, 12:30:59 PM »
Yes they do but they are a very very young team, once the big three and some of the supporting cast start clicking on all cylinders then we are going to see the real Leafs, hopefully the full tune up starts before the Boston series.

I feel like this point is just lost on some.

I mean, Moore, who has just been brought up to play full time NHL duties, is older than all of Matthews, Marner, Nylander, and Kapanen.  And 3 of those 4 guys are key cogs to this team.

The most experienced and oldest member of the core is just 25 (Rielly).

Many of the problems with this team are consistent with a young team.  It shows, and I can accept it, because if this is them while they're inexperienced, then we've got a lot of good hockey to look forward to.

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« Reply #151 on: March 10, 2019, 12:37:46 PM »
i think it will be an interesting playoff...neither Boston or Tampa Bay will take the Leafs lightly...cuz when they get rolling they can beat any team...

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« Reply #152 on: March 10, 2019, 12:57:07 PM »
Having read every GDT this year, I can unequivocally say that some people have said the Leafs suck.

haha for sure, GDT's are somewhat toxic, I check in at the end :) This team is 4th OVERALL IN THE LEAGUE with a 21-year-old Marnthews core having a DECADE of their best hockey ahead.  Herman your insights are great, you should do twitter.

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« Reply #153 on: March 10, 2019, 01:01:09 PM »
i think it will be an interesting playoff...neither Boston or Tampa Bay will take the Leafs lightly...cuz when they get rolling they can beat any team...

Because Atlantic Powers, The 4th overall best team may/will meet the 3rd overall best team in the first round. That's like a conference final calibre series. "But the Leafs haven't even won a ROUND yet." Well, they're just entering their prime, still young and keep starting with a conference final level matchup :D Once Bergeron/Marchy turn old we're golden.

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Re: Leafs @ Oilers - Mar. 9th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050
« Reply #154 on: March 10, 2019, 01:56:02 PM »
Here's your list of the past 10 Cup winners, their total points on the regular season and their goal differential through the regular season:

2018 WSH  105 pts  +20
2017 PIT    111 pts  +48
2016 PIT    104 pts  +42
2015 CHI   102 pts  +40
2014 LA     100 pts  +32
2013 CHI*  132 pts  +90  *extrapolated from 48 games*
2012 LA      95 pts   +15
2011 BOS   103 pts  +51
2010 CHI    112 pts  +62
2009 PIT     99 pts   +25

2018-19 Leafs, projected:  107 pts  +62.  They have a points projection higher than all but 3 of the past 10 Cup winners and equal or greater goal differential than all but 1.  Only 1 of the past 10 Cup winners won the President's Trophy.  Like virtually every eventual Cup winner ever, the Leafs are very good and also flawed.  To obsess on the flaws of such a good team at the expense of enjoying the wins and the virtues seems such a depressing way to follow a team.
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Re: Leafs @ Oilers - Mar. 9th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050
« Reply #155 on: March 10, 2019, 02:28:46 PM »
Yes they do but they are a very very young team, once the big three and some of the supporting cast start clicking on all cylinders then we are going to see the real Leafs, hopefully the full tune up starts before the Boston series.

I feel like this point is just lost on some.

I mean, Moore, who has just been brought up to play full time NHL duties, is older than all of Matthews, Marner, Nylander, and Kapanen.  And 3 of those 4 guys are key cogs to this team.

The most experienced and oldest member of the core is just 25 (Rielly).

Many of the problems with this team are consistent with a young team.  It shows, and I can accept it, because if this is them while they're inexperienced, then we've got a lot of good hockey to look forward to.

I completely agree with the sentiment.

However, you have to include John Tavares as part of the core. He and Kadri are both an ancient 28 1/2.

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« Reply #156 on: March 10, 2019, 02:58:52 PM »
I completely agree with the sentiment.

However, you have to include John Tavares as part of the core. He and Kadri are both an ancient 28 1/2.

Those guys are only "complimentary" players. ;)

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Re: Leafs @ Oilers - Mar. 9th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050
« Reply #157 on: March 10, 2019, 03:03:14 PM »
Well that means I can see them rule while I am in Boston in April.  Glad I didn't go to the game last year when they got blown out there.
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Re: Leafs @ Oilers - Mar. 9th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050
« Reply #158 on: March 10, 2019, 03:11:58 PM »
Here's your list of the past 10 Cup winners, their total points on the regular season and their goal differential through the regular season:

2018 WSH  105 pts  +20
2017 PIT    111 pts  +48
2016 PIT    104 pts  +42
2015 CHI   102 pts  +40
2014 LA     100 pts  +32
2013 CHI*  132 pts  +90  *extrapolated from 48 games*
2012 LA      95 pts   +15
2011 BOS   103 pts  +51
2010 CHI    112 pts  +62
2009 PIT     99 pts   +25

2018-19 Leafs, projected:  107 pts  +62.  They have a points projection higher than all but 3 of the past 10 Cup winners and equal or greater goal differential than all but 1.  Only 1 of the past 10 Cup winners won the President's Trophy.  Like virtually every eventual Cup winner ever, the Leafs are very good and also flawed.  To obsess on the flaws of such a good team at the expense of enjoying the wins and the virtues seems such a depressing way to follow a team.

Great post.

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Re: Leafs @ Oilers - Mar. 9th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050
« Reply #159 on: March 10, 2019, 03:22:57 PM »
Having read every GDT this year, I can unequivocally say that some people have said the Leafs suck.

haha for sure, GDT's are somewhat toxic, I check in at the end :) This team is 4th OVERALL IN THE LEAGUE with a 21-year-old Marnthews core having a DECADE of their best hockey ahead.  Herman your insights are great, you should do twitter.

Thanks! There are a lot of more insightful posters here that make the Leafs discussion more lively and intelligent and hilarious.
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Re: Leafs @ Oilers - Mar. 9th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050
« Reply #160 on: March 10, 2019, 03:51:26 PM »
Having read every GDT this year, I can unequivocally say that some people have said the Leafs suck.

haha for sure, GDT's are somewhat toxic, I check in at the end :) This team is 4th OVERALL IN THE LEAGUE with a 21-year-old Marnthews core having a DECADE of their best hockey ahead.  Herman your insights are great, you should do twitter.

I wouldn't be willing to wager my money on the core being here for a decade.

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Re: Leafs @ Oilers - Mar. 9th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050
« Reply #161 on: March 10, 2019, 04:41:29 PM »
Having read every GDT this year, I can unequivocally say that some people have said the Leafs suck.

haha for sure, GDT's are somewhat toxic, I check in at the end :) This team is 4th OVERALL IN THE LEAGUE with a 21-year-old Marnthews core having a DECADE of their best hockey ahead.  Herman your insights are great, you should do twitter.

Matthews has already been here for 3 years and committed to 5 more. I donít think itís crazy to think 2 more years could be added to that.

I wouldn't be willing to wager my money on the core being here for a decade.

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Re: Leafs @ Oilers - Mar. 9th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050
« Reply #162 on: March 10, 2019, 05:06:48 PM »
Here's your list of the past 10 Cup winners, their total points on the regular season and their goal differential through the regular season:

2018 WSH  105 pts  +20
2017 PIT    111 pts  +48
2016 PIT    104 pts  +42
2015 CHI   102 pts  +40
2014 LA     100 pts  +32
2013 CHI*  132 pts  +90  *extrapolated from 48 games*
2012 LA      95 pts   +15
2011 BOS   103 pts  +51
2010 CHI    112 pts  +62
2009 PIT     99 pts   +25

2018-19 Leafs, projected:  107 pts  +62.  They have a points projection higher than all but 3 of the past 10 Cup winners and equal or greater goal differential than all but 1.  Only 1 of the past 10 Cup winners won the President's Trophy.  Like virtually every eventual Cup winner ever, the Leafs are very good and also flawed.  To obsess on the flaws of such a good team at the expense of enjoying the wins and the virtues seems such a depressing way to follow a team.

Great post.

Thank you.  I'd add that for all those 9 Cup winners who didn't win the President's Trophy, they were an average of 13 points behind the top regular season team.  That's pretty substantial.  LA won the Cup in 2012 in the 8th seed, knocking off the top regular season team and defending Cup finalist in 4 games to start the playoffs.

The Leafs probably won't win the Cup this year.  You know what, odds are, neither will Tampa.  But who knows.  It's an unpredictable sport, enjoy the ride.
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Re: Leafs @ Oilers - Mar. 9th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050
« Reply #163 on: March 10, 2019, 05:11:42 PM »
Matthews has already been here for 3 years and committed to 5 more. I donít think itís crazy to think 2 more years could be added to that.

It's not but it's also worth pointing out that nobody really knows what situation the league will be in when Matthews' deal expires. There'll be a new CBA and a new national TV contract so the cap may be in a very different place than it is now.
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