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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Reply #765 on: October 27, 2018, 10:44:50 AM »
Or Gardiner who we're going to lose for nothing because it's highly unlikely we can afford him.

If the Leafs trade Zaitsev, they could be able to afford Gardiner.
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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Reply #766 on: October 27, 2018, 01:04:48 PM »
Or Gardiner who we're going to lose for nothing because it's highly unlikely we can afford him.

If the Leafs trade Zaitsev, they could be able to afford Gardiner.

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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Reply #767 on: October 27, 2018, 04:31:03 PM »
But do we really wanna make that right side worse?  I'm no Zaitsev fan, but i think the right side is better with him, than without him.

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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Reply #768 on: October 27, 2018, 05:16:16 PM »
And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.

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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Reply #769 on: October 27, 2018, 06:39:59 PM »
And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.
If they can find a taker for Zaitsev, you can keep Gardiner and hope that next season Liljegren is the right D replacement for Zaitsev.

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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Reply #770 on: October 27, 2018, 09:37:00 PM »
And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.
If they can find a taker for Zaitsev, you can keep Gardiner and hope that next season Liljegren is the right D replacement for Zaitsev.

Let's be realistic, though.  Best case is he slots in on the 3rd pair, not 2nd.

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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Reply #771 on: October 27, 2018, 10:01:17 PM »
And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.
If they can find a taker for Zaitsev, you can keep Gardiner and hope that next season Liljegren is the right D replacement for Zaitsev.

We can only hope

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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Reply #772 on: October 27, 2018, 10:23:03 PM »
And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.
If they can find a taker for Zaitsev, you can keep Gardiner and hope that next season Liljegren is the right D replacement for Zaitsev.

Let's be realistic, though.  Best case is he slots in on the 3rd pair, not 2nd.
Zaitsev shouldn't be a 2nd pair dman either so you know

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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Reply #773 on: October 28, 2018, 09:41:40 PM »
But do we really wanna make that right side worse?  I'm no Zaitsev fan, but i think the right side is better with him, than without him.

Keep the more talented blue liner every time, and that’s Gardiner by a mile.
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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Reply #774 on: October 28, 2018, 09:43:48 PM »
And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner.

That’s debatable. Jake may make more big mistakes, but his ability to move the puck adds more defensive value than anything Zaitsev has shown.
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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Reply #775 on: October 29, 2018, 06:06:54 AM »
And Zaitsev is a better "defense"man then Gardiner. Tough call going forward. I think if they can sign him to under 6 mill he stays, if he wants 7 he's gone.
If they can find a taker for Zaitsev, you can keep Gardiner and hope that next season Liljegren is the right D replacement for Zaitsev.
I'm pretty sure this now is the eternal game plan. Just the Kessel and Aintsey money coming off the books this year affords a reasonable offer for Jake, room for Liljegren, and maybe Rosén or another standout at pretty much a wash for the next two years. I think Babber's "you can't train size" philosophy guarantees we see a lot of Ozhiganov and Marincin, which is fine by me so far. All this seems pretty doable, even if Jake's looking for Shattenkirk money. Now, i might be in the camp that believes Gardiner gets a bit too much of the Larry Murphy treatment, and yes i know what happened in April, but where would his replacement come from? He's not the first defenceman to have a terminal case of Bonehead Manouevre Propensity Syndrome, but his hockey IQ is pretty good, and he's never stopped improving. Even if this is peak Jake, whatchya gonna do, let him walk and pick up Justin Faulk at the cost of pick stability? Keeping Jake is a no-brainer, until someone like Doughty decides the Kings are 2000-and-late.

Jake is our bird in hand. 6.5m is fair and doable.
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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Reply #776 on: October 29, 2018, 10:08:10 AM »
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Gauthier for Gagner (with Vancouver retaining 50% of his cap).

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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Reply #777 on: October 30, 2018, 11:42:33 AM »

I would absolutely take a flier on one of these two team-stifled, offensively-creative RWs at the lowest of their possible value.

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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Reply #778 on: October 30, 2018, 12:56:22 PM »

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Re: Armchair GM 2018-2019
« Reply #779 on: October 30, 2018, 01:02:34 PM »

It me!
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