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Hearing that several teams will be pitching Sens this week on Erik Karlsson. Taking on Ryan contract expected to be part of the ask.— Terry MarcotteCTV (@TerryMarcotte) February 20, 2018
Hearing that several teams will be pitching Sens this week on Erik Karlsson. Taking on Ryan contract expected to be part of the ask.
Oh my god why haha. Get the highest possible return you can get for Karlsson and worry about Ryan later.
Well, the easy answer there is that they think clearing Ryan's cap number is a big part of "the highest possible return". But even beyond that I wonder how much Karlsson will realistically cost if the team that trades for him then has to decide whether or not to pay him 11 or 12 million per season. He's a good player, and worth a lot, but there is sort of a catch 22 where any young player that would be considered a good return for him and is affordable may be a more attractive option.
Tampa's name has been the one thrown around the most. How much would they pay to get two shots at the Cup with Stamkos-Kucherov-Hedman-Karlsson-Vasilevskiy?
I don't know but in a way that's sort of my point. I assume Sergachev would be part of the ask, the main part, and then beyond that...Point? A couple firsts? A prospect like Foote? What's the return for Ottawa that makes you say "wow, what a good return" while not doing serious damage to Tampa's depth for those cup runs?
It's sort of a similar situation we were in with Kessel, but their Ryan ask would be like if we demanded whoever acquired Kessel took Horton on as well.
Well, yeah, except if Kessel had been in high demand and the Leafs had a lot of teams to play off each other. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it'll happen, I'm just saying that in your hypothetical package those "picks and prospects" may not be as valuable to Ottawa as shedding Ryan's contract. Obviously getting someone to agree to that would be a tall order but you can't blame Ottawa for trying to shoot the moon.
Trying to package Karlsson and Ryan just screams like a penny-pinching move by Melynk. They'll be giving up potential picks and prospects just so he doesn't have to pay Ryan's cheques.
Valuable in what sense though? Shedding Ryan's contract isn't going to help their hockey team in any way.
Thoughts on the Erik Karlsson trade talk, and why we probably have reached the point of no return. https://t.co/fDMXOXC6Cd— Travis Yost (@travisyost) February 21, 2018
Thoughts on the Erik Karlsson trade talk, and why we probably have reached the point of no return. https://t.co/fDMXOXC6Cd
This is sensational stuff.Thoughts on the Erik Karlsson trade talk, and why we probably have reached the point of no return. https://t.co/fDMXOXC6Cd— Travis Yost (@travisyost) February 21, 2018When's the Oiler one?
Quote from: herman on February 21, 2018, 05:01:42 PMThis is sensational stuff.Thoughts on the Erik Karlsson trade talk, and why we probably have reached the point of no return. https://t.co/fDMXOXC6Cd— Travis Yost (@travisyost) February 21, 2018When's the Oiler one?I don't think that article is any good at all. It's all speculation and opinion, and without any factual support.
Too many former team executives thrown under it. https://t.co/XEnb5i4d1P— Down Goes Brown (@DownGoesBrown) February 21, 2018
Too many former team executives thrown under it. https://t.co/XEnb5i4d1P
I don't think that article is any good at all. It's all speculation and opinion, and without any factual support.
I'm curious which part of it you have a problem with. I'd say first that Yost isn't claiming that he has some sort of inside source feeding him all this information. It's clear it's just the thoughts of a fan/follower (I mean there's a reason he posted it on his tumblr and not on TSN where he writes). But I think it's a paints a pretty accurate picture of what's been going on with Karlsson and the sens in the past year or two.